Peter - Verrrry freaky Peter - A student just now has a 4x5 holder with Arista 100 by Foma she shot in a pinhole camera! Bob -----Original Message----- From: Peter J Nebergall <iusar4s@xxxxxxxx> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 5:46 pm Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Getting into 4x5 for the first time... Care to reflect on the inexpensive 4x5 films available thru Freestyle Photo? Peter Nebergall On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:48:50 -0400 ralaubach@xxxxxxx writes: glad to help anytime jeff - i teach large format/view camera at Northern Virginia Community College in Alexandria VA just outside of Washington DC. feel free to email me anytime - work email is RLaubach@xxxxxxxx personal email is RALaubach@xxxxxxx Bob -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Kelley <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 5:56 pm Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT: Getting into 4x5 for the first time... By the way, thanks again everyone for all your great advice! There are several centuries of photographic experience lurking here... I'm sure I'll have more questions, assuming I come home with that package. Jeff On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Jeff Kelley <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I just talked to the seller and told him I'd buy the system - assuming, of course, it really is what's claimed. Hmmm, now I need to think about developing 4x5...I can feel my wallet getting thinner already ;) Jeff On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Robert Lilley <54moggie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Neveer mind about the Tachihara - go for the Sinar F package! Rob On Mar 25, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Jeff Kelley wrote: Wow, I just got back from lunch and found all this great advice already! Thanks everyone! The 2 lenses in the kit are: Fujinon 210mm f5.6 and a Nikkor 135mm f5.6. The package includes a ton of accessories too. All for less than $900. This seems like a great deal when I look at ebay prices for a similar setup. The seller claims "mint" condition. I have not seen the equipment in person yet, however. Jeff On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I've been giving serious thought to trying 4x5 for the first time. I know nothing about it except from reading. I have about 40yrs of photo experience with 8mm through 6x9, though no view camera experience whatsoever. I found a local seller with a Sinar F, 2 lenses, and what appears to be everything needed to get going - except film. Does anyone reading know if this "kit" would be appropriate for a rank beginner to the world of 4x5? Jeff The words "Beginner" and "Sinar" has never been used in the same paragraph until this day and age with EBay. Sinar is an impossible dream come true camera for peoples whose commitment to sheet film is unquestioned. Thinking of it as a "I'm thinking of getting into 4x5 maybe I'll start out with a Sinar" is amazing. I'd have called you a liar if you told me some day a thing would happen that would get people talking like that. Mark William Rabiner markrabiner.com Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.