[rollei_list] Re: FREE Tri-X

  • From: Michael Eric Berube <pj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:10:07 -0400

Will you agree with me that comparing APS-C sensor output and 4X5 negs is comparing apples and oranges?


Kodak is sending me two rolls of TMax one will be 100 ISO and the other 400 ISO, both will be 35mm. What I said was my D300 will blow these free rolls of new TMax away at 1600ISO in a 16X24 print. Sure this was a bit cavalier and off the cuff, but I will not back pedal from it as an exaggerated claim. I stand by what I've said. I've seen the quality of a D300 at 1600ISO and know the grain in a two stop pushed roll of TMax 400. A D300, properly exposed, will produce a better (sharper, cleaner, more defined and better colour/tones) image at 1600 ISO than any properly exposed 35mm film at 1600ISO on the market today or ever. Period. (and has the advantage of shooting in both colour and b&w at the same time.)

You felt the need to add that a D300 image wouldn't stand up to a 4X5 neg at any sized print and something wonderfully macho about "kicking my ass around the room" and then suggested that I'd "back peddle and claim digital is faster and cheaper." I didn't (and wouldn't) try to claim that an APS-C DSLR could hold up to the quality of a 4X5 neg.

Amateurs may think in your 'digital default mode' (Hel, most of them think that their 12MP digicam is "2" better than my 10MP D200!) but any working pro who has shot digital for more than one season realises that Digital capture is most certainly not faster, and in no way is it cheaper (again, for a professional.) Digital's primary advantage is its superior quality in low light use and the far greater control that it offers me over my final product. IF I were a hobbiest with a 'real job' or a Fine Art photographer, I may have all the time and money in the world to spend in a darkroom on one or two prints a day, but I am a Wedding photographer and occasional Photojournalist. I need to create consistent work in marketable quantity and quality usually from less than ideal lighting situations (dark churches, no flash allowed.) If I were still shooting film and relying on a lab to produce this work for me, it would definitely be faster (drop my film off and pick it up when it is done) and wouldn't cost me nearly as much (considering the time spent in post = lots of money) BUT I'd also have little to no control over two thirds of 'my' photographic process and my low light photos would not meet my or my client's quality expectations. Basic economics simply do not support souping my own negs and printing my own prints, nor even having someone else soup and scan the negs. In the quantity that I'm called on to produce from the available darkness that I'm called on to work in, using colour or b&w film in any format is simply impractical.

I'm not here to bash film nor digital either. Nothing to feel threatened about or really to argue over. Digital capture feeds and clothes my family and I LOVE film in both my Rollei MX-EVS and my Leica IIIf RD (and Retina IIIC and Ziess Ikon...) My local lab does a decent job of souping and scanning negs for me to play with one or two rolls once in a while.

I just can't feed my family using film in this market any longer as it doesn't meet my needs. That's all. :)

Peace be with you,
Michael Eric Berube
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