I have to chime in here. I flew in the drag race too, used a CTI K-1200. I lost it immediately, never did find it. I named it "Elvis", so when I do go looking for it, I just tell people I'm looking for Elvis........ :-) Phil ________________________________ From: Wedge Oldham <wedgeoldham@xxxxxxxxx> To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, April 2, 2012 3:14:21 PM Subject: [roc-chat] Re: 4" Goblin on K2045 My Goblin had 2 layers of 6 oz glass on each side. BUT....I cut off the fin tabs, and all three fins were surface mounted. I wouldn't worry too much about grain colapse; or even a shred. When we started teh idea of a 4" goblin drag race Andy and myself tried to shred a STOCK goblin, and had a very hard time. Only when we steped it up to the 6 grain 54mm motor could we get it to shred. The hard part is finding the Goblin after you're done. Wedge On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Lakestake Rocketry <lakestake@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dok and I outflew Wedge at the first 4" Goblin drag race. We were on the 75mm K and Wedge was flying the 98mm. That is the 1499 and 1999 IIRC. No problem with either of the flights going up. >Mike's notes 1, 2 and 4 are quite relevant. >Our goblin had stock fins, a OEM fiberglass Nike nosecone and some CF on the >airframe. (And a custom-machined slimline retainer of course.) >Wedge, what were you flying that day? >Matt > >On Apr 1, 2012 7:47 PM, "Mike & Nancy Kramer" <kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >Launched a heavily modified 4" goblin on a K2045, no grain collapse, but the >chute never came out, when i dug it out of the crater (yes crater) there were >shreds of the nosecone at the bottom of the of the carnage. I never did >figure >out why the nose never ejected. The motor case was 'significantly distorted' >after the landing, the entire front of it was flared back over the back of the >motor. Bought Jack a new case that day, it was a loaner. >> >>Couple of things; >> >>1) Get a tracker, it was impossible to see it going up >>2) Beware of whiplash >>3) Come up with a cool name, we went with the Shred Zeppelin >>4) Can I watch >>5) Doc tried a near stock goblin on a K1999, it re kitted about 50 feet up >> >>Mike Kramer >> >> >>On 4/1/2012 6:32 PM, Leslie Stephens wrote: >>I remember a drag race at ROC with 4" goblins on K-1999'z after seeing that i >>believe a K2045 should be ok >> >>> >>> >>>Andy H >>> >>> >>> >>>On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Steve Trammell wrote: >>> >>>Forgot about grain collapse. Looks like some more research is in order. It >>>is >>>rocket science after all :-) >>>> >>>>Thanks all, >>>> >>>> >>>>On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Gene Engelgau wrote: >>>> >>>> At 92 g's You could collapse the propellant grains and make a big boom! >>>> Fiber >>>>glassing the fins will not help in that case. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>- Regards >>>> >>>>Gene Engelgau >>>>KI6IBL, NAR 86770 / TRA 12243 - L3 >>>>http://fruitychutes.com - Consumer and Aerospace Recovery Solutions >>>>Like us on Facebook! >>>>Follow us on Twitter! >>>>408-499-9050 >>>> >>>> >>>>On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:21 PM, JACK GARIBALDI < JackGaribaldi@xxxxxxx> >>>>wrote: >> >>>>Maybe glass the fins and I think it will work >>>>Jack >>>> >>>>Sent from my Mil Spec IPhone 4S >>>> >>>>On Apr 1, 2012, at 5:11 PM, "Steve Trammell" < stramm8235@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>wrote: > >>>> >>>>I'm thinking of flying a 4" Goblin (stock build + fin fillets) on a CTI >>>>K2045. >>>>I've flown this rocket on a number of K motors including 2 successful K1100 >>>>flights. The K1100 flights pulled 40g's and reached 1,000 MPH. A K2045 >>>>flight >>>>sims to 92g's and 1100+ MPH. Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Also, does CTI V-Max propellant use standard delay charges or are >>>>electronics >>>>needed like AT Warp9 propellant? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>