[roc-chat] Re: 4" Goblin on K2045

  • From: Phil Laisure <pal129@xxxxxxx>
  • To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 16:36:13 -0700 (PDT)

I have to chime in here.  I flew in the drag race too, used a CTI K-1200.  I 
lost it immediately, never did find it.  I named it "Elvis", so when I do go 
looking for it, I just tell people I'm looking for Elvis........      :-)   Phil




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From: Wedge Oldham <wedgeoldham@xxxxxxxxx>
To: roc-chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, April 2, 2012 3:14:21 PM
Subject: [roc-chat] Re: 4" Goblin on K2045


My Goblin had 2 layers of 6 oz glass on each side.  BUT....I cut off the fin 
tabs, and all three fins were surface mounted.

I wouldn't worry too much about grain colapse; or even a shred.  When we 
started 
teh idea of a 4" goblin drag race Andy and myself tried to shred a STOCK 
goblin, 
and had a very hard time.  Only when we steped it up to the 6 grain 54mm motor 
could we get it to shred.

The hard part is finding the Goblin after you're done.

Wedge


 
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Lakestake Rocketry <lakestake@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Dok and I outflew Wedge at the first 4" Goblin drag race.  We were on the 75mm 
K 
and Wedge was flying the 98mm.  That is the 1499 and 1999 IIRC.  No problem 
with 
either of the flights going up.
>Mike's notes 1, 2 and 4 are quite relevant.
>Our goblin had stock fins, a OEM fiberglass Nike nosecone and some CF on the 
>airframe.  (And a custom-machined slimline retainer of course.)
>Wedge, what were you flying that day?
>Matt
>
>On Apr 1, 2012 7:47 PM, "Mike & Nancy Kramer" <kramer@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>Launched a heavily modified 4" goblin on a K2045, no grain collapse, but the 
>chute never came out, when i dug it out of the crater (yes crater) there were 
>shreds of the nosecone at the bottom of the of the carnage.  I never did 
>figure 
>out why the nose never ejected.  The motor case was 'significantly distorted' 
>after the landing, the entire front of it was flared back over the back of the 
>motor.  Bought Jack a new case that day, it was a loaner.
>>
>>Couple of things;
>>
>>1) Get a tracker, it was impossible to see it going up
>>2) Beware of whiplash
>>3) Come up with a cool name, we went with the Shred Zeppelin
>>4) Can I watch
>>5) Doc tried a near stock goblin on a K1999, it re kitted about 50 feet up
>>
>>Mike Kramer
>> 
>>
>>On 4/1/2012 6:32 PM, Leslie Stephens wrote: 
>>I remember a drag race at ROC with 4" goblins on K-1999'z after seeing that i 
>>believe a K2045 should be ok 
>>
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>>>
>>>Andy H
>>>
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>>>
>>>On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Steve Trammell wrote:
>>>
>>>Forgot about grain collapse.  Looks like some more research is in order.  It 
>>>is 
>>>rocket science after all :-)
>>>>
>>>>Thanks all, 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Gene Engelgau wrote:
>>>>
>>>> At 92 g's You could collapse the propellant grains and make a big boom! 
>>>> Fiber 
>>>>glassing the fins will not help in that case. 
>>>>
>>>>--  
>>>>- Regards 
>>>>
>>>>Gene Engelgau 
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>>>>
>>>>On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 5:21 PM, JACK GARIBALDI < JackGaribaldi@xxxxxxx> 
>>>>wrote: 
>>
>>>>Maybe glass the fins and I think it will work 
>>>>Jack 
>>>>
>>>>Sent from my Mil Spec IPhone 4S  
>>>>
>>>>On Apr 1, 2012, at 5:11 PM, "Steve Trammell" < stramm8235@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>wrote: 
>
>>>>
>>>>I'm thinking of flying a 4" Goblin (stock build + fin fillets) on a CTI 
>>>>K2045.  
>>>>I've flown this rocket on a number of K motors including 2 successful K1100 
>>>>flights.  The K1100 flights pulled 40g's and reached 1,000 MPH.  A K2045 
>>>>flight 
>>>>sims to 92g's and 1100+ MPH.  Any thoughts? 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Also, does CTI V-Max propellant use standard delay charges or are 
>>>>electronics 
>>>>needed like AT Warp9 propellant? 
>>>>
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