[realmusicians] Re: Perplexity!

  • From: Chris Belle <cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:36:04 -0600

So your saying windows 7 goes in for you whether ahci mode is on or off?

I've got a friend who can't install w7 or xp on his machine from scratch, and we think it's because of the ahci being turned on.

Maybe he's got a controler not in the w7 build he's got, but I just bet it's hanging up wanting a text mode driver.

I still like to leave that turned off though, I don't need to hotswap sata and I think it works better, and daw vendors even if they're not blind, up till recently anyway, tended to leave this off, there must be some other reason, I know adk did that, and MJim doesn't think there's much difference in performance, not enough to matter anyway.


At 08:18 AM 12/1/2011, you wrote:
Well I've never had an issue with windows 7 or vista needing sata drivers,
but xp was  written in the days of ide, it doesn't know anything about sata,
back then that was still an idea on paper. Luckily SAS was around and they
needed a third party plug-in systemn, so that saved our butts! But in
windows 7/8/vista this is not a problem...

HTH, D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:48 AM
To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Perplexity!

Thanks for the refresher DJX, I got an xml file to do all that, but just
incase, I ever need to try and do it from memory, this will help.

Yeh, when the bios goes away, good ridence to those damned text mode drivers
'grin'.

Ain't it ridiculous that window's can't see the drives, and they're running?


At 10:09 PM 11/30/2011, you wrote:
>You can't run xp setup from 7, because you're trying to go backwards.
>You have to do an outside of windows install.
>You'll need sited assistance or know your system well to do it by memory.
>First thing's first, if your sata chipset is set to raid or ahci, get
>text mode drivers for the controller, or windows xp will either crash
>with a BOSD (Blue Screen of Deaf) or give you the "Nno installable disks
were found"
>error.
>Another bigger problem, you'll need a floppy drive (built-in or
>external) with those drivers on a disk. During the setup startup
>there's a portion where you press f6 to load these drivers and select
>the controler etc. If this is too much to deal with, go to bios, and
>set the sata mode or sata type to legacy/IDE. This will run normally
>without drivers and the f6/floppy drive.
>Now, another issue which is probably why this isn't working for you in
>the first place, when your computer is starting up, either 2 things happen:
>1. it might display a quick prompt that says "press any key to boot from
CD"
>in which case you would strike a key on the keyboard and the computer
>would boot from CD instead, and therefore start the xp setup.
>2. The computer might expect you to press a key (usually f12, f11, or
>f10) as it's booting up to enter boot menu or startup options. In this
>menu, it shows you the various drives, you would then select cd rom
>from the list, and it will proceed to boot from CD and load setup. Note
>that when using this option it'll most likely also ask you to press a
>key to boot from CD, even after you've selected the cd drive from the
>list; it's a security feature.
> From there you would load setup, press enter to start, press f8 to
>accept license, use the partition manager to delete the current
>partitions, press enter on the drive/space you'd like to use, select a
>format type, and it'll start copying.
>After that, it'll restart after 10-20 mins, and load more stuff, then
>it'll launch the OOBE (out of box experience) ask for the user info etc.
>
>HTH, D!J!X!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
>Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:12 PM
>To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [realmusicians] Perplexity!
>
>Win7 64 doesn't seem to want to let me do a clean install of Win XP 32
>on top of it.
>It's acting like Hal did in the movie, what's its name, Space Odyssey
>2001?,
>Win7 doesn't want to die.
>I tried every way I know.
>   Autorun on the Win Xp install disk doesn't autorun.
>   Setup.exe is grayed out on the XP install disk, and does not respond
>to either clicking from enter; or the physical mouse left click.
>I thought I'd fool the machine  by leaving the XP install disk in the
>DVD drive, closed the tray, shut down the computer, waited a bit, then
>turned power on, but the XP install disk was ignored and Win7 booted up
normally.
>I don't get it, what else is there to do?
>I don't want to image this Win7 somewhere else, I don't need it.
>I have it elsewhere on disk already.
>Could I format drive C from within Win7?
>I didn't try that, I supposed it wouldn't let me do it.
>Should I partition the 1.5 TB drive first, and try to install XP on
>that partition?
>I thought that I'd have a problem when the computer re booted during
>the installation process, it would boot to drive C where Win7 is
>installed, and not to the partition where I was trying to install XP.
>
>If I can, I'd rather do a clean install of drive C with XP, and wipe
>out Win7, then partition later, if that's possible.
>No, I don't have external tools, there's no floppy drive for those
>little disk forematting and partitioning tools, and the tools I do have
>on CD are miserably slow I forematted a 160 GB drive once with them,
>and it took all day, it might take eternity to foremat a 1.5 TB drive,
>I have to do it with Windows tools.
>.Thanks for any advice,
>Indigo L

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