[realmusicians] Re: Perplexity!
- From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 09:33:18 -0500
Well it's doable with bootloaders, but I don't trust my life on thirday
party ones; though Easy BCD is good, these things can fail on the most
crucial times!
Find your motherboard drivers from the vendor, if you have an MSI board, go
to the MSI website, or google your motherboard model, for example you would
google: "MSI 880-ep45 drivers for xp" and find their site. Make sure you
don't get the drivers from some other site, make sure it's the MSI website
or whatever vendore made your board. Another important thing, make sure you
know the revision number of your motherboard if it has one, because those
change from time to time, as the boards are updated.
If the board does have xp support, you'll find your drivers there!
HTH, D!J!X!
-----Original Message-----
From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:46 AM
To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [realmusicians] Re: Perplexity!
Well, DJX, I learned you can install backwards, from Win7 to XP, with the
help of EasyBCD, which is a fairly accessible and free little boot utility
that lets you edit Win7's bootlog.
I got Win7's boot manager edited to; wait for user input.
With the XP install disk in the drive, press any key to boot from disk
flashed by, oops, too late!
So, it stops in Win7 Boot Manager.
After comprehending where we are, we exit from Boot manager, and get a
second chance to; Press any key to boot from disk.
After pressing any key the Windows XP installer began, running as usual.
Windows Xp successfully installed.
But, there's always a monkey wrench in the gears.
I thought I had XP drivers on factory disk.
I guess they were Win7 64 drivers, including the RealTech audio driver, so
now there's no sound, no device at all shown in XP's Sounds and Multi Media,
audio tab.
I called the ZT Systems 7/24 telephone support, and the very kind man said
to write to zt for drivers.
I just went to their website, and filled out tedious registration, serial
numbers, model numbers, email address, motherboard number, operating system,
then Firefox crashed, then I got it to recover, almost finished the form
except for 1 number, then Firefox crashed again, got it back and submitted.
Guess what, after I made sure serial number and model number, were correct,
and pressed submit, it went to the next page, where only Windows 7 64 bit
drivers were listed for download
So, despite the fact that I was told the motherboard supports Xp, and the
motherboard manual for this model mentions support for Win7 Xp, etcetera, 32
and 64 bits, who knows if I'll get drivers and sound Yes, I could run
hardware speech, yes I can hire a reader to look over my shoulder as I run
the computer, ha ha..
Without the RealTech 32 bit XP drivers I'll send the m F back to China!
I wish I could train my wolf dog to read computer screens for me.
He simply devours good books, but he's the silent type, and all he's learned
to say is woof woof so far, so he's not that good at at reading aloud.
Oh well, what the hell!
Indigo L
.
On 11/30/2011 11:09 PM, D!J!X! wrote:
> You can't run xp setup from 7, because you're trying to go backwards.
> You have to do an outside of windows install.
> You'll need sited assistance or know your system well to do it by memory.
> First thing's first, if your sata chipset is set to raid or ahci, get
> text mode drivers for the controller, or windows xp will either crash
> with a BOSD (Blue Screen of Deaf) or give you the "Nno installable disks
were found"
> error.
> Another bigger problem, you'll need a floppy drive (built-in or
> external) with those drivers on a disk. During the setup startup
> there's a portion where you press f6 to load these drivers and select
> the controler etc. If this is too much to deal with, go to bios, and
> set the sata mode or sata type to legacy/IDE. This will run normally
> without drivers and the f6/floppy drive.
> Now, another issue which is probably why this isn't working for you in
> the first place, when your computer is starting up, either 2 things
happen:
> 1. it might display a quick prompt that says "press any key to boot from
CD"
> in which case you would strike a key on the keyboard and the computer
> would boot from CD instead, and therefore start the xp setup.
> 2. The computer might expect you to press a key (usually f12, f11, or
> f10) as it's booting up to enter boot menu or startup options. In this
> menu, it shows you the various drives, you would then select cd rom
> from the list, and it will proceed to boot from CD and load setup.
> Note that when using this option it'll most likely also ask you to
> press a key to boot from CD, even after you've selected the cd drive
> from the list; it's a security feature.
> From there you would load setup, press enter to start, press f8 to
> accept license, use the partition manager to delete the current
> partitions, press enter on the drive/space you'd like to use, select a
> format type, and it'll start copying.
> After that, it'll restart after 10-20 mins, and load more stuff, then
> it'll launch the OOBE (out of box experience) ask for the user info etc.
>
> HTH, D!J!X!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:realmusicians-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Indigo
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:12 PM
> To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [realmusicians] Perplexity!
>
> Win7 64 doesn't seem to want to let me do a clean install of Win XP 32
> on top of it.
> It's acting like Hal did in the movie, what's its name, Space Odyssey
> 2001?,
> Win7 doesn't want to die.
> I tried every way I know.
> Autorun on the Win Xp install disk doesn't autorun.
> Setup.exe is grayed out on the XP install disk, and does not
> respond to either clicking from enter; or the physical mouse left click.
> I thought I'd fool the machine by leaving the XP install disk in the
> DVD drive, closed the tray, shut down the computer, waited a bit, then
> turned power on, but the XP install disk was ignored and Win7 booted up
normally.
> I don't get it, what else is there to do?
> I don't want to image this Win7 somewhere else, I don't need it.
> I have it elsewhere on disk already.
> Could I format drive C from within Win7?
> I didn't try that, I supposed it wouldn't let me do it.
> Should I partition the 1.5 TB drive first, and try to install XP on
> that partition?
> I thought that I'd have a problem when the computer re booted during
> the installation process, it would boot to drive C where Win7 is
> installed, and not to the partition where I was trying to install XP.
>
> If I can, I'd rather do a clean install of drive C with XP, and wipe
> out Win7, then partition later, if that's possible.
> No, I don't have external tools, there's no floppy drive for those
> little disk forematting and partitioning tools, and the tools I do
> have on CD are miserably slow I forematted a 160 GB drive once with
> them, and it took all day, it might take eternity to foremat a 1.5 TB
> drive, I have to do it with Windows tools.
> .Thanks for any advice,
> Indigo L
>
>
>
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