[realmusicians] Re: Hope 2

  • From: Chris Belle <cb1963@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: realmusicians@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:49:40 -0600

yeh Indie, JDX gave you good advice, seems him and I are reading each other's minds lately, guess we've done a lot of this stuff, him more than me, and xp default behavior is like what he said, but your right in that a wrong driver can hose the system, some are smart enough not to go in if things aren't right, but remember, lesser mobo developers don't spend the time they should on driver package development, even the good stuff can had crappy installs sometimes.


And if you can't go in to safe mode, which can sometimes work for getting rid of bad stuff,
then your best strategy is to back up and do it again if you didn't image.

YOu know, I can almost recommend disabling an onboard soundcard in some cases, and using a generic usb device.

This gives you more control in a way, and sometimes performance is better, because those onboard sound cards sometimes have all sorts of crap and it's easy to make a usb card go away if you have a conflict, just unplug it.

Some times those realtek cards cause issues with your audio interface, I have a minor issue with xp and my real tek card where I get an access violation of some kind with the mackie onyx drivers, I can dismiss the dialogue and things come right, but it's still there.

Not in w7 but with xp.

But if I were using a usb device, this wouldn't happen.

But I'm running three sound cards in this machine including my onyx so I've got
her loaded down.

I like those generic usb devices, so handy especially for installing operating systems, and sending speech someplace in a hurry, I like class compliant devices you can just plug in and not have to worry about drivers or weird control pannels.

So you might just get away with disabling the realtek in the bios, but in order for your other audio devices to work right, you still may have to install that microsoft high definition driver the qfe or whatever it's called, it's an intel thing.

and chipset, if you don't do that, then things like usb and system level stuff won't work right especially in xp.

when I do the chipset, I get the same hardware found soinds like you installed new devices, so that stuff is very important and it's the low level framework other drivers depend on.

and you need to get the right stuff in in order like I said in my other email.

So your probgably best to get xp in fresh,
not with a tinkered boot loader, and get your chipset software in, and then the high def audio driver, and any special thing for your video, if you have onboard video you may need to install the intel graphic manager stuff,
it differs from board to board.

But definitely make an image right after you install xp, will save you lots of time if you goof.





At 08:16 AM 12/1/2011, you wrote:
Besides the generic RealTech drivers from the RealTech website, which I'm waiting to install in case I can get the correct drivers, last night I plugged in the $10 USB sound card, that looks like a thumb drive with 3.5mm jacks for headphones and mic. It provided the ta ta and shutdown fanfare, so I know it will work for speech temporarily. Today I could install a screenreader, but I can already tell that mistakenly installing the Win7 64 drivers on Win XP 32 did some damage to XP. I normally shut down XP with Alt+F4, then the letter U, then enter, but this installation begins the shut down as soon as I press the U without waiting for enter, so something's wrong with it. Extracting wrong drivers can be about as difficult, I've heard, as extracting teeth, better to reinstall XP, and not need to worry about those 64 bit drivers in there.
Indigo L

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