21st seems better, since some of us may be going to the wintercross thing at Miller?!?? My plans are still up in the air. I have a photographer/buddy/High School friend who is coming up from St. George and want's to see the track and shoot a few pics of cars (that are oversteering we hope), so the 21st gets my vote. Larry -----Original Message----- From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Buck Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 3:55 PM To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ratpack] November lunch meeting Paul and I talked about this (since he was here at my house to return my 20D and Sigma 17-70 lens) and realized that the reason that the 14th wouldn't have been a good date is no longer valid...I'm not gonna be making a trip to El Mirage. With that in mind, Paul and I agreed that either the 14th or the 21st are good for us. Thanksgiving is on the 26th (I had to look it up) so I don't think either date would be in conflict with the holidays. But ya never know. How about picking one of the two dates and reply to this message...then we'll tally the votes (yeahrightsure...maybe we could get a Florida election official to validate the outcome) and etch it in stone. K? RtR