I'll hurry up and agree with you so I don't get in trouble Larr From: ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ratpack-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JOHN W WEIBEL Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 1:28 PM To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ratpack] Re: FW: Clubhouse membership at Miller Motorsports Park Vintage Racing!!! That is an old thought. Miller Motorsports Parks wants to have their own Vintage Racing Organization. Over the years, I have offered at least 100 ways to increase attendence and income. Fallen and mixed with the dust in the wind. It took me 3 years to have a clock in the Clubhouse. The only sane and intelligent person working in some kind of thoughtful position is John Gardner. He knows how to bring people and races to the track. I'll shut my mouth. Could get me into trouble. A. N. Alog ________________________________ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:17:55 -0700 To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From: rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ratpack] Re: FW: Clubhouse membership at Miller Motorsports Park Based on several things...like last year's attendance, this year's prices, slim major event schedule (NASCAR isn't there...probably because the 2010 NCWW schedule hasn't been announced, but there's still no mention of any vintage racing...and where's AHRMA?) and the moon being in the second house, I don't think there will be much competition for any of the seats in the sit-down area. At at least one of the events last year, they didn't even open it up. At a time when they otta be GIVING away perks to draw crowds, they're raising prices. This looks to me like something that management of failing companies do so they can justify gutting it and shutting it down. I sincerely hope this isn't the case. Maybe the off-road thing will draw crowds. I dunno. But I also dunno why they don't put an arena-type supercross and off-road truck race track in the infield of the east course. It seems like there's plenty of room and it could be viewed from the clubhouse and several grandstands. If they could build a temporary track in Rice Stadium (back when it was called that) they could sure put one out in the middle of the east track. I dunno. I'll just make the best of it for as long as I can. At least the salt flats ain't goin away...unless a certain piece of legislative land grab H.R. 1925 to be exact is passed, which could possibly limit access to a whole lotta the state of Utah....the salt flats aren't specifically mentioned, but the area surrounding it is. http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-1925 http://www.suwa.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ARRWAclickablemap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcRXVK4imA (a decidedly one-sided view, but makes some valid points.) Sorry for the political off-topic stuff, but it seems sorta valid in this context. Ignore at your discretion. RtR At 10:48 AM 11/20/2009, you wrote: I prefer the French Dip and all he raspberry iced tea I could drink. with tip around $12.00. Not bad. But the ELITE Fee is EXPENSIVE. Was not bad in 06 & 07 when there was a lot of events and parties with the drivers and the retired drivers, Andretti, Bondurant, Sally Swartz (Jimmy Clark's girl friend and others). Guess I am going to have to brow beat John Gardner for one of them wrist bands and an orange vest for next year. I did hear for next year that with the wrist band will only allow you use of the stand up facility. The sit down ones are only for "fat-wallet" asses. Please note I did not say Fat Asses. John W Weibel ________________________________ Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:55:27 +0000 From: humminboid@xxxxxxxxxxx To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ratpack] Re: FW: Clubhouse membership at Miller Motorsports Park Soooo, John, what does that break down to per hamburger and brewski, seeing as how you have to pay for the food and drink? I think I'll keep bringing my lunch. C. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JOHN W WEIBEL" <marce.weibel@xxxxxxx> To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 8:38:46 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain Subject: [ratpack] Re: FW: Clubhouse membership at Miller Motorsports Park All: Just think, for $250.00 per major event, you can sit, in an air conditioned room, on a bar stool and drink a beer. Speaking of the Ace Cafe, Glen, the Hoosier Tire Sales/Service guy from Phoenix, has told me that the food served at the cafe is the best "Track Food" anywhere west of the Mississippi. Thank you. John W Weibel ________________________________ Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:37:06 -0700 To: ratpack@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From: rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ratpack] Re: FW: Clubhouse membership at Miller Motorsports Park I think they just killed themselves: Individual Club House Membership - $1,000 Each additional Individual Club House Membership - $750 Rider's Club Membership - $2,500 Driver's Club Membership - $5,000 Racer's Club Membership - $10,000 MPRA Champions Club Membership - $64,000 Business Club Membership - $7,500 Executive Club Membership - $30,000 Kart Racer's Club Membership - $950 Tax additional. Renewing members receive a 10% discount on all memberships I might have been able to afford the membership in 06 or 07, 08 and 09 were borderline and there's no way I could afford this...especially if I'm gonna spend most of my day out in the elements using gear I could buy with that grand. Makes the Ace Cafe look pretty good and the cooler in the back of the Burb look even better. :) RtR At 06:09 PM 11/19/2009, you wrote: Gentlemen: Thought you might find this information useful. Thank you. John W Weibel ________________________________ From: ddegraaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To: ddegraaff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:25:15 -0700 Subject: Clubhouse membership at Miller Motorsports Park Hello, You were a clubhouse member in 2008. As always we thank you for your current and past support. We have created a few new memberships for the 2010 season that may interest you for next year. Many of the new ones revolve around track time for both motorcycles and cars. Please take a moment to look at the attachment of memberships. I will follow up with you next week but feel free to call me in the meantime with any questions. Thanks!! The 2010 Season memberships are: Individual Additional Riders Club Drivers Club Racers Club MPRA Championships Club Business Club Executive Club Kart Racers Club The 2010 Major schedule*: May 29-31, 2010 - Superbike World Championship June 26-27, 2010 - Lucas Oil Off Road Racing Series July 10-11, 2010 - American Le Mans Series Sept 11-12, 2010 - Grand-Am Rolex Series And please keep in mind that we have garages you can rent, riding and driving schools to attend and activities for your business/company to participate in. Thanks!!!! Derrek DeGraaff Group Sales Senior Account Executive Miller Motorsports Park 435.277.8622 office 435.277.8008 fax ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail transmission, and any documents, files or previous e-mail messages attached to it may contain information that is confidential. 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