[pure-silver] Re: RE3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers

  • From: Shannon Stoney <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:06:21 -0500


On Sep 13, 2007, at 8:51 AM, BOB KISS wrote:

DEAR LIST,
        I have always wondered why neither Kodak nor Ilford have sold their
3200 speed films as sheet films. Where else would one really LOVE the speed
and not care as much about the grain?  Don't you find that curious?
        I lust after Delta 3200 in 8X10.  Can you imagine that speed?  Even
after filter factors and/or bellow factors you could use a high F# and not
have to expose for seconds!

Maybe you could use an 8x10 hand held.

My tests of Delta 3200 show that for me, in DDX, its real speed is about ISO 600. Whenever I've tried shooting it at faster speeds, the film was underexposed. I like to use it in the HOlga sometimes, since film speed is the only control you have (there's only one aperture and shutter speed).

I'm happy with slow films really for view cameras. It's the hassie (and holga) that needs fast film, since it has to be shot (hand held) at 1/125 of a second, at least for me. I don't like the way a flash makes things look, and it scares people.

--shannon


        Anyone know anyone at those places?  Maybe we could induce them to
make some in those sizes?
                CHEERS!
                        BOB

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Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:19 PM
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Ilford developers


----- Original Message -----
From: "Shannon Stoney" <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Ilford developers


Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for.  I am
thinking of  switching from DDX to ID-11 in order to get
slightly less grain.  But,  DDX is very convenient, as it
is already diluted and it is easy to make  slightly
different dilutions, like 1+4, 1+6, and 1+8, for different
purposes.

--shannon

    If fine grain is what you want check out Ilford
Perceptol or Kodak Microdol-X. These two are identical and
are extra-fine-grain developers when used full strength.
There will be a speed loss of about 3/4 stop, not a lot and
grain is noticably finer than D-76 type developers.
    When either developer is used with ISO-100 speed Tabular
grain films, such as Kodak 100T-Max, Ilford Delta 100, or
Fuji Acros, the grain is nearly as fine as the late,
lamented Kodak Technical Pan but with about four times the
speed and with no problems with contrast control. While Tech
Pan had extrememely high resolution the resolution of the
above three films is around 200 lp/mm for high contrast
targets, which is very high. My experience using this
combination for 35mm is that the negatives begin to have the
smoothness of tone rendition I associate with larger
formats.
    A caviet, the combination has almost no acutance effect
so mushy lenses will be very obvious.
    Xtol is nearly as fine grain and some what sharper. Also
Xtol has some speed gain, about the same as Microphen,
T-Max, DDX, etc., that is other Phenidone developers. It is
also sharper than Perceptol or Microdol. The only drawack to
Xtol is the well known sudden death syndrome.

---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

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