[pure-silver] RE3200 SHEET FILM? was Re: Ilford developers

  • From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:51:47 -0400

DEAR LIST,
        I have always wondered why neither Kodak nor Ilford have sold their
3200 speed films as sheet films.  Where else would one really LOVE the speed
and not care as much about the grain?  Don't you find that curious?  
        I lust after Delta 3200 in 8X10.  Can you imagine that speed?  Even
after filter factors and/or bellow factors you could use a high F# and not
have to expose for seconds!  
        Anyone know anyone at those places?  Maybe we could induce them to
make some in those sizes?  
                CHEERS!
                        BOB

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[mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard Knoppow
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 10:19 PM
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Ilford developers


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shannon Stoney" <shannonstoney@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Ilford developers


> Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for.  I am 
> thinking of  switching from DDX to ID-11 in order to get 
> slightly less grain.  But,  DDX is very convenient, as it 
> is already diluted and it is easy to make  slightly 
> different dilutions, like 1+4, 1+6, and 1+8, for different 
> purposes.
>
> --shannon
>
    If fine grain is what you want check out Ilford 
Perceptol or Kodak Microdol-X. These two are identical and 
are extra-fine-grain developers when used full strength. 
There will be a speed loss of about 3/4 stop, not a lot and 
grain is noticably finer than D-76 type developers.
    When either developer is used with ISO-100 speed Tabular 
grain films, such as Kodak 100T-Max, Ilford Delta 100, or 
Fuji Acros, the grain is nearly as fine as the late, 
lamented Kodak Technical Pan but with about four times the 
speed and with no problems with contrast control. While Tech 
Pan had extrememely high resolution the resolution of the 
above three films is around 200 lp/mm for high contrast 
targets, which is very high. My experience using this 
combination for 35mm is that the negatives begin to have the 
smoothness of tone rendition I associate with larger 
formats.
    A caviet, the combination has almost no acutance effect 
so mushy lenses will be very obvious.
    Xtol is nearly as fine grain and some what sharper. Also 
Xtol has some speed gain, about the same as Microphen, 
T-Max, DDX, etc., that is other Phenidone developers. It is 
also sharper than Perceptol or Microdol. The only drawack to 
Xtol is the well known sudden death syndrome.

---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

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