[pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
- From: Eric Nelson <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 08:37:12 -0800 (PST)
I've no way to check but I'm sure it's dry down here judging by how fast prints
dry and how quickly they get to that bone dry state where it's inadvisable to
put them in the press.
Drying takes place outside of the darkroom. I never thought I'd be using a
humidifier down here and turned it on yesterday. I was mostly surprised that
the shrinkage was enough so that it was kind of pointless to try and re-align
on
the easel and just eyeballed it from what I'd done before. It wasn't critical
to match prints size-wise but it was interesting to find out about this in this
process.
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From: Eric Neilsen Photo <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 10:17:12 AM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
I'd check the RH of your room again. I doubt you'll see it grow, but have you
tried re wetting a print/ Also what wash temp are you using? cold contracts so
if your having an issue with shrinkage, consider all the temp and rh the paper
is being exposed to along the way. When printing on a 16x20 piece of MG VI
paper, I would allow for at least an 1/8" or up to 3/16" long dimension and
perhaps 1/32+ on the short.
Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
www.ericneilsenphotography.com
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From:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eric Nelson
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 3:50 PM
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
Ilford Multi FB 16x20.
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From:Eric Neilsen Photo < ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
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Sent: Sat, February 5, 2011 1:43:53 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
What brand is shrinking in both direction?
Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
www.ericneilsenphotography.com
skype me with ejprinter
www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1
Let's Talk Photography
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On Behalf Of Eric Nelson
Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 11:07 AM
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
I air dry everything but prints do go into a hot press of course to be
flattened. It's dang dry in here for being below ground!
Eric
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From:Eric Neilsen Photo < ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
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Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 10:03:24 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
I have noticed paper shrinkage mostly, and that means almost all, on the long
edge of the paper. If there were shorter dimensions on two sides, I'd suspect
TOO high a local drying temp. Air dry only . But with the cold and need for
heat
the RH may be really low right now?
Eric Neilsen
Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
www.ericneilsenphotography.com
skype me with ejprinter
www.ericneilsenphotography.com/forum1
Let's Talk Photography
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From:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eric Nelson
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:25 PM
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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
Thanks Harry. It looked on my easel to be even all the way 'round and I
measured the space on each dimension.
Also, I trying to match a print of unknown age, (drymounted w/tissue showing)
and I didn't see the range in the print I was able to pull from the same neg
using a common English made fiber paper. The older print, although nothing
spectacular on it's own, seemed to have a greater range of tones... or I just
really suck as a printer!
One wouldn't have noticed the difference unless side by side but sometimes when
printing nowadays it seems like I am working w/paper w/the tonality range of
digital. =\
Eric
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From:harry kalish <hksvk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 8:50:51 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage Question and Adhesive Advice
Yes, I have tried the same thing, and that much shrinkage sounds about what I
have noted. But shrinkage should be more in one dimension than the other
because
of how the paper fibers are aligned.
I would try rubber cement on your ruler. Apply a thin, even coat to both
members
and wait for it to get tacky before putting the cork to the metal. Clamp, but
not tight enough to squeeze all the cement out.
Harry
On 2/3/11 6:16 PM, "Eric Nelson" <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I am doing a re-print and I want to use the unusable dry fiber print to size up
with on the easel so it matches what I made yesterday. It seems that the print
shrank 2mm in each direction making precise (architectural image) alignment
impossible. Is that normal? I knew there was some shrinkage but never noticed
this much. It's a 16x20 print.
I have a cork backed ruler and the cork is separating from the ruler. Would
contact cement be a good choice to re-adhere the portion coming off? It's a
15"
ruler so it's has some flex to it.
Thanks
Eric
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