[pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality

  • From: harry kalish <hksvk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 11:19:36 -0500

Here is a short passage from the web page

http://www.thepapermillstore.com/pages.php?pageid=190

You most likely won¹t see or notice the expansion and contraction of unbound
paper, but you can be sure it is happening. Paper fibers expand and contract
as much as 400% more across the grain direction of the paper fiber than with
the grain direction.

Go to this page for an explanation of what ?across the grain direction¹
means, and other interesting info. This fellow seems to know his business,
but there are many other sites that address this topic. Assuming even
application of the emulsion, it seems to me that this principle should also
apply to photo paper.

Harry 


On 2/4/11 11:03 PM, "Eric Neilsen Photo" <ej@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> I have noticed paper shrinkage mostly, and that means almost all, on the long
> edge of the paper.  If there were shorter dimensions on two sides, I'd suspect
> TOO high a local drying temp. Air dry only . But with the cold and need for
> heat the RH may be really low right now?
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> Eric Neilsen
> Eric Neilsen Photography
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> From: pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:pure-silver-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Nelson
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 7:25 PM
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage & Paper Quality
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> Thanks Harry.  It looked on my easel to be even all the way 'round and I
> measured the space on each dimension.
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> Also, I trying to match a print of unknown age, (drymounted w/tissue showing)
> and I didn't see the range in the print I was able to pull from the same neg
> using a common English made fiber paper.   The older print, although nothing
> spectacular on it's own, seemed to have a greater range of tones... or I just
> really suck as a printer!
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> One wouldn't have noticed the difference unless side by side but sometimes
> when printing nowadays it seems like I am working w/paper w/the tonality range
> of digital.  =\
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> Eric 
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> From: harry kalish <hksvk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, February 3, 2011 8:50:51 PM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Print Shrinkage Question and Adhesive Advice
> 
> Yes, I have tried the same thing, and that much shrinkage sounds about what I
> have noted. But shrinkage should be more in one dimension than the other
> because of how the paper fibers are aligned.
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> I would try rubber cement on your ruler. Apply a thin, even coat to both
> members and wait for it to get tacky before putting the cork to the metal.
> Clamp, but not tight enough to squeeze all the cement out.
> 
> Harry
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> On 2/3/11 6:16 PM, "Eric Nelson" <emanmb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I am doing a re-print and I want to use the unusable dry fiber print to size
> up with on the easel so it matches what I made yesterday.  It seems that the
> print shrank 2mm in each direction making precise (architectural image)
> alignment impossible.  Is that normal?  I knew there was some shrinkage but
> never noticed this much.  It's a 16x20 print.
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> I have a cork backed ruler and the cork is separating from the ruler.  Would
> contact cement be a good choice to re-adhere the portion coming off?  It's a
> 15" ruler so it's has some flex to it.
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> Thanks
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> Eric
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