[pure-silver] Re: Large Format Tilt
- From: Helge Nareid <hn.groups@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:31:46 +0000
Richard Knoppow wrote:
[... big snip ...]
As a matter of fact, for this kind of calculations, the distances
should be measured from the front and rear nodal points of the lens,
which are rarely the same as the physical surfaces _nor_ the entrance
and exit pupils of the lens.
- Regards
Helge Nareid
The exact locations of the principle planes (same as nodal points
when the entire lens is in air) may be important for some special
circumstances such as micro or macro work but are not for general work.
Sorry Richard
You are of course right - I was being somewhat excessively pedantic in
my previous post. One definition of a nodal point is that the image does
not move if the lens is rotated around the nodal point, that is indeed
equivalent to the nodal point being exactly one focal length from the
focal plane (at infinity). This can actually be moderately useful for
large format photography, in that if your lens is mounted in such a
manner that the rear nodal point coincides with the rotational axis of
the front standard, there will be minimal requirements for reframing and
refocusing with a lens tilt or swing. However, this is rarely the case
with any practical camera/lens combination.
However, having worked with bottom tilt axis, central tilt and swings
axes and asymmetrical axes (as used by Sinar), I will concur with the
advice that you really need to check your focus with a high
magnification loupe on the ground glass - don't trust any of that fancy
stuff.
Of course, for any movements, it helps if the swing or tilt axes are
actually within the image area - bottom tilts always require refocusing
of the entire image, which can be a right pain at times.
Personally, I tend to prefer front tilts and swings - rear movements do
affect the perspective of the image (as in converging lines). As for
shifts, except for close range work, it doesn't really matter which
standard you use.
Finally, any rear swing or tilt can be shown to be equivalent to a front
swing/tilt combined with a camera rotation and a shift (and for that
matter vice versa). The proof of this can be left to the student ...
- Helge Nareid
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As a matter of fact, for this kind of calculations, the distances should be measured from the front and rear nodal points of the lens, which are rarely the same as the physical surfaces _nor_ the entrance and exit pupils of the lens.- Regards Helge Nareid
The exact locations of the principle planes (same as nodal points when the entire lens is in air) may be important for some special circumstances such as micro or macro work but are not for general work.
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