About a decade ago, just when I started doing my own printing, I read /The Permanence and Care of Color Photographs: Traditional and Digital Color Prints, Color Negatives, Slides, and Motion Pictures /by Henry Wilhelm and Carol Brower. In it, they recommended that one tone FB prints in selenium, wash, use hypo eliminator (not wash aid!), wash, and dry the print. Their reasoning was that while a small amount of hypo left in a print protects it from pollutants, toning does so to a greater degree, getting the right amount of residual hypo can be hit and miss, and the use of hypo eliminator saves a significant amount of water. I used that process for a number of years, and I haven't had any trouble, but of course it's way to soon to tell. A while ago, I stopped doing this. Instead I went to using a stronger selenium (KRST 1 + 9 parts water) for 5 minutes at 70F, followed by a wash aid. Just recently (thanks Ralph!) I started doing the following: Wash Ilford MG FB paper after fixing for 30 minutes. Tone in KRST 1 + 19 water for 4 mintues. Wash for 5 minutes. Tone in Kodak Brown Toner 1 + 31 parts water for 4 minutes. Soak in a 20% sodium sulfite solution for 5 minutes. Wash for 45 minutes to 1 hour. I like the way this treatment makes the prints look. Nonetheless, I have two questions: Question 1: would hypo eliminator counteract the tendancy of KBT to stain prints? (If not, the next question is pre-empted.) Question 2: Is there any reason to not use hypo eliminator to minimise wet time? Last night I was up to 4 am finishing processing prints, and I'd appreciate any way to cut down the processing time. Thanks, Peter De Smidt www.desmidt.net ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.