[pure-silver] Re: Deteriorating movie film
- From: "BOB KISS" <bobkiss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:40:26 -0400
DEAR JOHN,
The first thing I would do is separate the Kodachrome from the B&W.
Then see which one (if not both) is (are) emitting the acidic smell. There
is the possibility that, if the films had unstable acetate bases they would,
in the presence of moisture and warmth, deteriorate into acetic acid and
other goodies. I am also worried that what you might be smelling is nitric
acid from nitrate film. If this is the case you have a very serious fire
hazard on your hands. To test for this, take a small snip of the b&w film
FAR AWAY from the reels in a fire safe place like over the kitchen sink.
Hold it with tweezers and light it with a match. If it burns like a very
fast fuse (Pssst!) then you have nitrate and a significant storage challenge
at hand. If it is acetate it will melt and blacken slowly but not burn
fast. You will still have a problem if the acetate base is deteriorating
into acetic acid but not a fire hazard.
I am sure that many who reply will insist that nitrate films went
out in the 30s or, at the latest, 40s but you might be surprised. I
discovered some nitrate film in some local collections of negatives. Beyond
the fire concerns nitrate film must be segregated from other film or the
nitric acid will cause image deterioration of the other films.
In any case it is time to find one of those 16mm scanning services
that will convert your films into DVDs.
CHEERS!
BOB
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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:20 AM
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Subject: [pure-silver] Deteriorating movie film
I have just retrieved from storage a large box of 16mm movie film from
the 1950s. Some is Kodachrome taken by my father, and some are black
and white commercial copies from the US of various types of
entertainment, such as cartoons, Charlie Chaplin, travelogues etc.
The box smells strongly of acetic acid, which I understand is the result
of some breakdown of the films. Can anyone tell me if the two types of
film are equally likely to deteriorate, or would there be a difference
between the Kodachrome and the black and white commercial films? The
colour of the Kodachrome looks very good.
John Stockdale
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