[pure-silver] Re: Kodak Special PX 3001paper

This is a "no win" question. Options are have the paper go bad as the natural age is used up. If that happens the paper might be used for some artsy stuff. Option two: Possible emulsion freezing and re-freezing issues, that you may never see. I'll go with the later....
Please understand, it is always better to buy and use fresh paper and not buy huge quantities and freeze it. However when you get a gem like old Ektalure, which has been discontinued, there is no option. 

Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "mail1" <mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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Dave what are your thoughts on the moisture in the emulsion expanding when
it freezes. I spoke with an Ilford Rep some years ago and he advised against 
refreezing because of the possible damage to the emulsion.
I have not gone the freezer route as energy to run the freezer is costly
living off the grid. In fact the last freezer I had ran 100% of the time
when the ambient air temp reached 95'which amounted to 5000 watts over 24
hours.
Jonathan Ayers [mail1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

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Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak Special PX 3001paper
The paper he has is old and expired by at least 5 years. If he tries some
and it does not have fog or mottle it is still good. I would keep it in a plastic bag and freeze it. Allowing it to warm up for an hour before using 
it and re-freezing remainder immediately afterwards.

Kodak discontinued Ektalure about 6 or 7 years ago.   It is an outstanding
product with history going back almost 100 years.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Cull" <jcull@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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And does this mean it will be on the market?  or is his an old box?

Janet



On Mar 24, 2008, at 10:41 PM, Dave V wrote:


People are usually selected based on how influential they are with  the
company reps. Then they are selected based on what ever change was made 


in the product so they might be sensitive to the change.   For example,
if a change was made that affected how the paper would  look in process
the users would be selected based on the different  chemistries they
used.   That means the sale reps would really need  to know their
customer base.   Usually all professional  photographers.   They would
test the material and Kodak research  staff would interview them.

Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Cull" <jcull@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 6:00 PM
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I'm very curious how one gets on a list to try out their new  products.

Janet



On Mar 24, 2008, at 5:40 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:



----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave V"  <DValvo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:43 PM
Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Kodak Special PX 3001paper


PX just means experimental.  FX is "film experiment" PX is "paper
experiment". The 3001 just means that was the next number available 


from corporate for test projects. It is a more recent   number. Open
the box (in total dark, no safelights) and see if   there is a stuffer
sheet inside.  It will tell you how to  process  the paper and
hopefully how to expose it. I don't remember if 3001 was one of mine 


or not.

Dave

   It's nice to have really authoritative information available  to
the list. Thank you Dave.
   ---
Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles, CA, USA
dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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