At 10:04 PM 22/12/2004, you wrote: >.....The Heiland products are specifically black and white so should not be >affected by the stain colour. However the article that Tony refers to ><http://www.unblinkingeye.com/Articles/Densi/densi.html> is interesting, >and suggests that a b+w densitometer will not take account of the stain. I >will ask Juergen Heiland about this and report back. >Regards >Richard Thanks Richard, that would be interesting. The article to which Tony=20 referred seems to agree with Sandy King's observation that a UV channel is= =20 a good predictor of effective density for alternative processes, but that=20 for silver printing, especially VC printing, the effect of different hues=20 of dye are difficult to measure using, for example, blue and green channels. Since the stain of pyrocatechol film developers is moderate and brown (at=20 least in the visible spectrum) rather than the olive green (and sometimes=20 quite strong) of PMK, I was prepared to just measure the silver density=20 and be aware that there would be some additional contrast. The fact that=20 there is density in the UV would probably not affect me, I'm guessing. I'm= =20 sure that graded and VC silver papers are senstitive to UV, but how much UV= =20 is produced by a 2-tube VC head, and would it pass through an enlarger lens= =20 anyway? In his web site about Nikon lenses, Bj=F8rn R=F8rslett mentions= one=20 enlarger lens that passes UV, so are we to conclude that most don't? So if I know that a densitometer was in fact giving me just silver density,= =20 I would be happy enough. I could then compare the effect on paper of=20 stained and non-stained negatives of approx equal silver density, and make= =20 up a table of adjustments. John ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.