Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
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- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 00:41:12 +0800
Hi. it seems to me that Jaws is living to its name, as in the film Jaws.
perhaps they should rename their product, Jaws For Money, or cash, - it
makes no difference, and Not Jaws for Windows as this name is so inapt and
appears so mundane and trivial in the context of its past and ongoing
lawsuit sagas. Cheers!
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From: "tribble" <lauraeaves@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers
Strike Again
Wow--the secular and religious -- interesting post... I still think of
some
good relevant lawyer jokes that I'll refrain from telling here but may on
request send them privately.
--le
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From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:49 AM
Subject: Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers
Strike Again
The stakeholders are not only the consumers, but all the persons that have
an interest in the company, the shareholders, the board of directors, the
administration council, and others.
And I don't think the mission of a company has anything to do with the
state
or the department of justice.
Read some more about the mission statement at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement
They say that
"A mission statement is a brief statement of the purpose of a company,
religious group or organization.
Companies sometimes use their mission statement as an advertising slogan,
but the intention of a mission statement is to keep members and users
aware
of the organization's purpose. In the case of public commercial companies,
the primary purpose must always be to uphold the interests of
shareholders,
whatever the mission statement."
So "the primary purpose must always be to uphold the interests of
shareholders", not to make the company's employees to solve all the
consumers needs and requests.
And by the way, the mission has no importance here, because we should talk
not about the interests of the company as a group, but about the interests
of the directors of the company.
The directors fight not for a mission, but for a bigger salary, and for
needing to make as little effort as possible for earning it.
That means efficiency in terms of effort of making money compared with the
results, and I think it is obviously that it would be much easier for the
directors of any company to be a monopoly, to not have any competition
that
could steal their customers, so it is normal that they want to make a
little
effort of stopping the competition if the laws allows them.
FS is not worse than other companies. Maybe if the directors of GW Micro
would work for FS, they would have done the same thing, but just because
they aren't in that position for the moment, they can say very easy that
they can't do such a thing.
Exactly because of this reason, it was very easy for the guys that wrote
the
bible to say that it is very hard to believe that the rich men will reach
the heaven, but the poor guys will surely be there.
The poor guys are good because they don't have the power of doing bad
things, but I think it is obviously that not all of them are really good
and
they will remain the same even if they become reach.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Engebretson" <davide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:48 AM
Subject: Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers
Strike Again
Maybe it is different in your part of the world, but american
corporations
have to abide by rules now.
Those rules are often governed by the federal justice system.
When issues are valid, they play out well for the consumer
(stakeholders).
Cheers,
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers
Strike Again
That's bla bla. The owners of any company are interested in results, not
missions. But what could they say that is their mission? To make as much
money as possible?
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Engebretson" <davide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:37 PM
Subject: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers
Strike
Again
That might be a main scope of the stakeholders, but not necessarily a
company. Look at their mission statement. That is where their main
scope is, or at least it should be from a business prospective.
I think this is the mission statement:
"To develop, manufacture, and market technology-based products that
provide equal access to information and computing for those with vision
impairments or learning disabilities." (I found this on the 'about us'
page from their main webpage.
Modern business's work towards their mission. If their mission is
comprimized by a patent infringement then they will do what they can to
protect their mission.
It may be an emotional issue for some of you, but I'm sure the
objective
is to keep the company in a position to continue with their mission
statement.
Let's move on to programming related issues, a?
Cheers,
David
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good relevant lawyer jokes that I'll refrain from telling here but may on request send them privately. --le----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 12:49 AM Subject: Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again The stakeholders are not only the consumers, but all the persons that have an interest in the company, the shareholders, the board of directors, the administration council, and others.And I don't think the mission of a company has anything to do with the state
or the department of justice. Read some more about the mission statement at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement They say that "A mission statement is a brief statement of the purpose of a company, religious group or organization. Companies sometimes use their mission statement as an advertising slogan,but the intention of a mission statement is to keep members and users aware
of the organization's purpose. In the case of public commercial companies,the primary purpose must always be to uphold the interests of shareholders,
whatever the mission statement." So "the primary purpose must always be to uphold the interests of shareholders", not to make the company's employees to solve all the consumers needs and requests. And by the way, the mission has no importance here, because we should talk not about the interests of the company as a group, but about the interests of the directors of the company. The directors fight not for a mission, but for a bigger salary, and for needing to make as little effort as possible for earning it. That means efficiency in terms of effort of making money compared with the results, and I think it is obviously that it would be much easier for thedirectors of any company to be a monopoly, to not have any competition that could steal their customers, so it is normal that they want to make a little
effort of stopping the competition if the laws allows them. FS is not worse than other companies. Maybe if the directors of GW Micro would work for FS, they would have done the same thing, but just because they aren't in that position for the moment, they can say very easy that they can't do such a thing.Exactly because of this reason, it was very easy for the guys that wrote the
bible to say that it is very hard to believe that the rich men will reach the heaven, but the poor guys will surely be there. The poor guys are good because they don't have the power of doing badthings, but I think it is obviously that not all of them are really good and
they will remain the same even if they become reach. Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "David Engebretson" <davide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 1:48 AM Subject: Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike Again
Maybe it is different in your part of the world, but american corporationshave to abide by rules now. Those rules are often governed by the federal justice system.When issues are valid, they play out well for the consumer (stakeholders).Cheers, David----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 1:45 PM Subject: Re: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers Strike AgainThat's bla bla. The owners of any company are interested in results, not missions. But what could they say that is their mission? To make as much money as possible? Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "David Engebretson" <davide@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 9:37 PMSubject: mission statement, was...Re: Freedom Scientific's Lawyers StrikeAgainThat might be a main scope of the stakeholders, but not necessarily a company. Look at their mission statement. That is where their main scope is, or at least it should be from a business prospective. I think this is the mission statement: "To develop, manufacture, and market technology-based products that provide equal access to information and computing for those with vision impairments or learning disabilities." (I found this on the 'about us' page from their main webpage. Modern business's work towards their mission. If their mission is comprimized by a patent infringement then they will do what they can to protect their mission.It may be an emotional issue for some of you, but I'm sure the objectiveis to keep the company in a position to continue with their mission statement. Let's move on to programming related issues, a? Cheers, David __________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at http://www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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