Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
- From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 09:16:48 +0200
Hey buddy. You are a lier. I didn't say that python is not accessible, but I
said for more times that it is accessible, but that the indentation strictness
makes it less friendlier for the blind than other languages that don't have
this requirement.
Octavian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
> well, sorry for participating in the whole IMO deal.
> I just don't want some newbie to be driven off a language because teddy
> deems it "unaccessible."
> I've just coded a tiney chat server in python within my first two hours of
> playing with it; it's not a hard language to learn. EdSharp makes life a lot
> more easier, though.
> speaking of: I use alt+shift+i to turn on indentation announcement, but that
> seems to change when I exit, can I make that perminent?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield
> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> web: tysdomain-com
> Visit for quality software and web design.
> skype: st8amnd2005
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "The Elf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 3:45 PM
> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>
>
>> thank you Jamal for returning to the factual original topic of this line,
>> the poor dude may have already stopped reading it due to the mass of IMO's
>> stuff that was being thrown about out here, *sigh*
>>
>> talk to you later,
>> inthane
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 10:47 AM
>> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>>
>>
>>> For whatever it's worth, my present perspective on these topics is as
>>> follows.
>>>
>>> If a new programmer wants to maximize the chance of getting paid
>>> employment, I suggest lerning Java, C#, or PHP. If the primary interest
>>> is developing web sites, I recommend PHP. If Windows desktop
>>> applications, I recommend either C# or Visual Basic .NET, depending on
>>> personal preference about syntax. If cross-platform development is the
>>> highest priority, I recommend Python.
>>>
>>> Regarding Python, I think its indentation requirement is unfriendly to
>>> blind programmers, particularly speech-without-braille users. Other
>>> aspects of a language should also be considered, however, in judging how
>>> friendly a language is. Clean syntax with a minimum of punctuation
>>> symbols often makes a language more friendly to beginners. In the
>>> languages I have mention so far, Python and Visual Basic are the
>>> friendliest in that respect. Case sensitivity also makes a difference to
>>> friendliness. Visual Basic is the friendliest in that respect, since the
>>> other languages mentioned are case sensitive. An interactive environment
>>> for testing small pieces of code is another aspect of friendliness.
>>> Python is the best of the languages mentioned in that respect.
>>>
>>> For anyone interested in a research project, I think the topic of what
>>> language is easiest for a beginning blind programmer is worth
>>> investigating. Without empirical evidence, it is difficult to judge how
>>> to weigh the different factors that affect the friendliness of a
>>> language.
>>> Let me encourage any student or professional researchers on this list to
>>> consider designing a study that may shed more light on this.
>>>
>>> Jamal
>>>
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