Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
- From: "ridge007@xxxxxxxxxxx" <Ridge007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:47:06 -0500
I've been experimenting with python code. I discovered one IDE that
automatically indent python code. For instance, in python whenever a : is
encountered, the : indicate the beginning of a code block. Like any other
language, it is user preference and usability that matter the most. One
man's opinion
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared Wright" <wright.jaredm@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
Teddy has a great fear of the indentation requirements in Python's
sintax. Needless to say, I also would disagree with his dismissing it
out of hand.
JW
Nick Stockton wrote:
> Hmmm why do you say python is "one of the least friendly programming
> languages for the blind"? I started learning python a month or so ago
> and in around a week I had written a program complete with a GUI and
> install wizard that looks up barcodes on bcscan.com and will
> automatically speak the output using the jfw and wineyes com objects
> as well as putting the output in a read-only edit box and
> automatically setting focus to it so the output can be reviewed with
> the up and down arrows. I also made a button to pull up the edit page
> on bcscan.com for the item you scanned in your default web browser so
> you can add or edit the item info. I also made hotkeys ALT-b to set
> focus to the barcode entry edit box, ALT-o to set focus to the output
> and alt-e to activate the add/edit button. All this from me, a python
> newbie who doesn't know any other programming language in just over a
> week!
> And what you might ask is my secret? Three things: The python
> tutorial at python.org, the speakup screen reader under gnu/linux and
> my most secret weapon of all... google.
>
> Nick Stockton
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Octavian Rasnita"
> <orasnita@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 2:58 AM
> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>
>
>> No I don't recommend perl if is needed to create that kind of program.
>>
>> Perl is the best for web apps which are not very simple, and it is
>> also good for desktop apps that require some specific things that can
>> be done using some CPAN modules, because that way the coder won't
>> need to do very low-level programming as he might need to do with
>> languages like Java or python.
>>
>> If the program is just one that should be used by a single person,
>> and if it doesn't need to be portable, and if it doesn't require very
>> complicated things, I would also recommend C#. I don't like VB.net
>> though. :-)
>>
>> Anyway, from the perspective of accessibility and responsiveness, the
>> best choice is no doubt C++ with MFC, but it is much harder to create
>> a program with C++/MFC than with DotNet, so DotNet is now prefered.
>>
>> Of course, Java with SWT could be also a solution, but unfortunately
>> there is no accessible forms designer for the blind for creating
>> programs with SWT like with DotNet.
>>
>> And python is one of the least friendly programming language for the
>> blind so of course I can't recommend it.
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Littlefield"
>> <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 4:17 AM
>> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>>
>>
>>> I would recommend c# or vb.net.
>>> Teddy will no doubt recommend perl, but I think vb.net or c# would
>>> be the best for you
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jose Lomeli"
>>> <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:18 PM
>>> Subject: e: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>>>
>>>
>>>> I am thinking of using python or vb6 or any other ones. I want to
>>>> create a checkings and savings program. Please write back.
>>>> From Jose Lomeli.
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tyler Littlefield" <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Date sent: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:04:17 -0700
>>>>> Subject: Re: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>>>>
>>>>> hello,
>>>>> first we need to decide what language your going to use. any
>>>> ideas?
>>>>> What kind of programs do you want to write?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tyler Littlefield
>>>>> email: tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> web: tysdomain-com
>>>>> Visit for quality software and web design.
>>>>> skype: st8amnd2005
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jose Lomeli" <jose.lomeli93@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:57 PM
>>>>> Subject: ewby on programming need some tips and tricks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Hello; Listers, I am new to programming and I want to start
>>>> doing
>>>>>> this. What are some tips and tricks I should know about and
>>>> what
>>>>>> program do I use for this and where can I download it? Please
>>>>>> write back.
>>>>>> From Jose Lomeli.
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