Re: WinformBasics - IDE Accessibility Option Settings
- From: "RicksPlace" <ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 May 2010 09:29:46 -0400
Another thing to do is to set the Error Window to a Tabbed Document. You do
this after you have created your first project so I have not gotten into this
yet. I am working on creating the project in VB.net and CSharp. I also have
updated and cleaned up the Tutorials on setting up the IDE so they are much
easier to walk through and added a section on how to use Context Help to read
about anything you want to know more about while navigating around the IDE. In
other words, you just cursor or tab to anything like one of the settings we set
up in the Accessibility tutorials or anything else and the Context Help will
tell you what that thingy is and describes a little about how it might be used.
This is great for beginners who want to know what some item in a menu or
setting in the IDE might do.
I think Sunday is a good day to post up the revised Tutorials and I will
leave them alone going forward. I also add a Version Number to each tutorial so
anyone saving them will know the most recent version if they want to have a
repository of archived articles.
I am doing this because I will change any of the tutorials if we find better
settings or want to add more examples or explanations to the initial versions
of the tutorials as we develop the project.
This is for guys like Jamal or Inthane who plan on archiving them so they
have the most recent version up on their websites going forward.
In my next post I will include the Updated IDE Accessibility Tutorials so, if
you walked the original ones, you can read through the new ones to make sure
everything is in order and you can see how to use Context Help since this is a
great learning tool to get some initial understanding of many of the IDE
features out of the box.
Downloading and installing the JAWS Scripts andConfiguring JAWS and the IDE
is the most complicated thing a beginner will have to do but I know of no way
around doing this - I guess it is what it is. Creating a project can be done in
1 minute or less but setting up JAWS and the IDE for accessibility can take
days of slogging through allot of technical details. It is what it is so don't
get frustrated and don't give up. It will get much easier after this first
tutorial.
Just take your time, get the job done right and things will improve over the
next week or 2 markedly.
Rick USA
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: Jacob Kruger
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: WinformBasics - IDE Accessibility Option Settings
I generally find that if I just hide the error window, it won't pop up unless
I ask it to not continue after compilation errors:
Alt + Shift + H
or Alt + Shift + E to specifically show it.
Stay well
Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
'...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
----- Original Message -----
From: RicksPlace
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: WinformBasics - IDE Accessibility Option Settings
OK, that setting seems like it will turn off the BackgroundCompiler that
runs all the time popping up messages you don't really want. I had tried to
figure out how to turn it off in Vb.net but I do not think there is a way. That
might be a very big help and might even help keep the bloody Error Window from
being such a problem from time to time. I think that will help allot to keep
your work in the editor clean.
Try making an intentional typeing error for a keyword. Then if the error
does not cause a problem, bring up the Error Window from under the View menu to
see if your intentional error is listed. If so you are in great shape. If not
you would have to click build to get the errors I think. I am still trying to
get the blasted Context Help to read consistently. I think I have a trick that
will make it work on a sconsistent basis if it does not work the first try. Ya,
If the help details don't come up but just a blurb about waiting for online
docs, the help is likely there and readable with the mouse. To get it to read
with the cursor and have the links on the Help Page in the Help Browser work, I
just view the source code from under the View menu, close the Code Window and
the Help Browser seems to have been refreshed with the Help Detail contents and
links.
Rick USA
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald Marang
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: WinformBasics - IDE Accessibility Option Settings
Thanks again for these workshops. While following your C Sharp IDE
settings, I think I found the setting to turn off what was annoying me most
while attempting to learn Visual Basic. In your instructions it says "Show
Live Symantic Errors is unchecked.".
I hope this is talking about the immediate errors that want to warn you
that there is no "End If" as soon as you type in "If". There is also a setting
to limit the error window, but it's setting is only temporary. I am hoping
this reduces my annoyance while typing.
Don Marang
From: RicksPlace
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 3:02 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: WinformBasics - IDE Accessibility Option Settings
Here are the first tutorials. They are how I set up the IDE for
Accessibility with Windoweyes.
Ask any questions you have about particular settings. That is what this
series is all about - Sharing questions, answers and applying the groups
knowledge and experience. When all the ideas have been discussed and questions
answered we will move on to the next tutorial on creating the WinformBasics
project using the IDE.
One note, if you use JAWS get the Scripts installed. Another point for
JAWS users is to turn off the thingy that displays Unlabeled Graphics in
JAWS. Another fellow was getting allot of noise from JAWS reading unlabeled
graphics making his IDE quite messy to navigate so he turned that feature off
in JAWS.
Finally, I am new to CSharp and the IDE settings are diferent so if you
see something I have set that could be better let me know. I will do some
reading on particular settings as they come up during the project. I have not
used Intellisense much so those settings will likely change in CSharp when I
try them out.
Again, ask questions so we can discuss the settings and use the
cumulative brain power of the group to answer questions before moving on to
creating the actual project. We can not deal with every setting but there are
settings applicable to accessibility and we can research those and some others
if anyone has a question not answered in my rather short and non explanitory
tutorials on this subject.
Happy Programming All!
Rick USA
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