RE: Scanner/Stuff...
- From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 06:52:03 -0400
We're having trouble getting the software installed. Has anyone here
installed a OEM edition of OmniPage Pro with success? We're getting to a
point where some kind of error occurs in a Roxio product I've never before
heard of and hitting cancel to bypass only results in a dialogue telling me
that I need this thing.
We'll try newegg, Xerox and Nuance today as it was after business hours by
the time we ran into the wall but it seems quite persistent.
cdh
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brent Harding
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 6:31 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Scanner/Stuff...
How would totally blind people validate books if we can't read the original
print to validate against? I never really understood this, but was thinking
of volunteering for something like this if there was a way I could.
----- Original Message -----
From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: Scanner/Stuff...
> Hi Chris,
> If you aren't a member, you can sign up to be one. You have to verify your
> disability by getting a doctor or blindness organization to do that for
> you. Anyone, sighted or blind, member or not, can be a volunteer. If you
> are a member and a volunteer, you get credit toward your membership fee if
> you either scan or validate. You just have to fill out an online form
> saying that you want to volunteer so that the system knows about you. The
> rules are that you can't scan and upload, then download and validate the
> same book. Someone must scan and another person must validate.
>
> Looking forward to seeing the book.
>
> Jim
>
> James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc.,
> james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810
>
> "it is only possible to live happily ever after on a day-to-day basis." --
> Margaret Bonnano
>
> Highmark internal only: Consider Usability Engineering On Your Next
> Project
> or release. http://highwire.highmark.com/sites/iwov/hwt093/
>
>
>
> "Chris Hofstader"
> <chris.hofstader@
> knology.net> To
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> programmingblind- cc
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> RE: Scanner/Stuff...
>
> 05/21/2008 10:07
> AM
>
>
> Please respond to
> programmingblind@
> freelists.org
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm happy to say that our new scanner arrived yesterday and that we're
> setting it up as I type. We'll do a few little experiments and when
> things
> look happy, we'll scan the Drupal book. I'm sorry it's taken so long to
> get
> to this but we'll be faster in the future.
>
> We cannot pledge to do more than scan one book per week and Susan will do
> her best to verify it in the same time period. With that said, this is a
> fast, scanner with a relatively large duplex sheet feeder so the scanning
> itself should go very quickly. The scanner came with OmniPage Pro which
> we'll try to use to avoid the cost of Fine Reader. If the quality is too
> poor to continue, we'll switch OCR engines. My experience with OpenBook,
> though, suggests that OmniPage is nearly as good as Fine Reader but that
> opinion results from four year old tests run without a framework that
> would
> eliminate subjectivity.
>
> Once we're done scanning this one, I'll send it off to Jamal and Jackie (I
> remember someone else had volunteered to do some verification work but
> I've
> forgotten who).
>
> Although I contract with BSO, I don't know their procedures for submitting
> books. If one of their volunteers will speak up, I would like to learn
> the
> procedure. What happens if two parties unknown to each other submit the
> same book at approximately the same time? I'd assume this would happen
> with
> Harry Potter and other smash hits and not Drupal tutorials but in the
> world
> of geekdom, one never knows nor can one ever imagine knowing.
>
> So, let's start a book club. People can nominate books, we'll have a vote
> on which comes next and someone will volunteer to pay for it and have it
> sent to our house. I will pay for some, certainly those I nominate but my
> choices jump to the head of the line because I'm a selfish bastard and are
> not likely to have more than a passing interest to most people here as I
> tend to read a lot about cognitive linguistics and other stuff that simply
> bores other people to suicidal ideation.
>
> Happy Hacking,
> cdh
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of inthaneelf
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:33 PM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Scanner/Stuff...
>
> still, his method seems to be fairly well accepted, a downloadable
> simple...
>
> form, that must be signed by a verifiable person at a qualified and
> verifiable location, usually accepted are doctors, rehab councilors, and
> staff of a school for the blind and visually impaired such as the Braille
> institute in southern California and the like
>
> the page should include name of course, title, of what agency, and address
> phone and such.
>
> that should do the trick for you,
>
> a question, what does it take to become "authorized" for such
> distributing?
>
> I know I can look it up, but since you brought it up, I am hoping you can
> give me the "skinny" on it?
>
> have a good one,
> inthane
> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
> Links
>
> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 8:14 AM
> Subject: RE: Scanner/Stuff...
>
>
>> The publisher can send the content of a book to whomever they choose,
>> inside
>> our outside the US. People like us, not in the publishing biz, are
>> restricted by all sorts of copyright laws in the US and around the world
>> which complicates the issue terribly.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian
>> Rasnita
>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 10:38 AM
>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: Scanner/Stuff...
>>
>> I have never read a book from bookshare.org because I think that it costs
>> money, while very many good books can be found for free.
>> But, before bookshare started to give O'Reilly books, O'Reilly had a free
>> service for the blind, and I received books from them.
>>
>> They created an FTP account where I could download the books I wanted,
> and
>> before creating me that FPT account, I needed to send them a scanned
> paper
>> that proves that I am a blind.
>> They accepted my paper, even if I live in Romania, Europe, not USA.
>> They told me that it is not a problem that I live in Romania, because
> they
>> also had some romanian employees, and I think they use to accept those
>> papers no matter the country.
>>
>> Octavian
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:36 PM
>> Subject: Scanner/Stuff...
>>
>>
>>> Hi Guys,
>>>
>>> My parents are in town so I'm fairly distracted from vocational and
> other
>>> programming related tasks. I did, however, manage to find a scanner
> with
>>> a
>>> document feeder (they used to call these sheet feeders, were consumers
>>> stupid enough to think they had something to do with bedding or is using
>>> the
>>> more sophisticated term a way to hit me up for an additional $25 or so
> by
>>> making me think it's a device far more interesting than something that
>>> simply scans sheets of paper - which, in fact, is what I want it to do).
>>>
>>> I bought a new Canon from the low end of their "professional" line which
>>> wasn't terribly expensive and only slightly slower than the one that
> died
>>> on
>>> us last week. It is expected to arrive by UPS mule by Thursday so Sue
>>> can
>>> start the Drupal scanning project on Friday while I'm having a tattoo
> put
>>> onto my left forearm. Assuming we don't get bogged down in a lot of
>>> paper
>>> jams and other scanning hell, we should have the book done by sometime
> on
>>> Saturday.
>>>
>>> This brings me to a minor conundrum - currently Bookshare.org is my most
>>> profitable client (the amount I earn from my different projects varies
> on
>>> a
>>> monthly basis depending upon how much attention I can devote to a gig
> and
>>> the project's level of urgency). I want, therefore, to promote BSO
>>> subscriptions to help defray the cost of the work they pay me to perform
>>> and
>>> to help keep the non-profit running smoothly as possible.
>>>
>>> At the same time, I don't want to exclude our friends outside the US
> from
>>> having access to this and other books on programming and technology that
>>> we
>>> process. Also, any web site that posts the book without the protections
>>> afforded by BSO, NLS and the others runs into a possible copyright
>>> problem
>>> with the publisher as, although we claim it is intended for blind people
>>> only, we have no way of protecting the content to ensure that proof of a
>>> print disability has been proffered before we share the book.
>>>
>>> I'm open to all sorts of ideas, please make suggestions.
>>>
>>> Yesterday, I spent an additional $250 on a birthday gift for my twin
>>> niece
>>> and nephew. I got them the Lego robotics starter kit which includes a
>>> ton
>>> of really neat features (you can read about it at lego.com), there are
> at
>>> least a half dozen books on Amazon describing projects one can make with
>>> the
>>> set, loads of add on parts, the ability to write code on a PC and
>>> download
>>> it to your bot and so many other very cool features that I could write
>>> for
>>> hours.
>>>
>>> The kids were first introduced to these Legos as part of their charter
>>> school program that brought them to MIT for two hours per week, one hour
>>> on
>>> robotics using the kit I got for them and the other on crypt-analysis
> and
>>> code breaking. Where were such programs when I was eleven years old?
>>>
>>> On a more topic based question, though, if I recall from my own
>>> childhood,
>>> Lego bricks and other pieces were highly tactile - does anyone know of
>>> blind
>>> kids using this kit to make their own robots? Does anyone know of any
>>> trials with children with vision impairment and such a kit? I'm curious
>>> to
>>> learn if it could be fit into a middle school course for budding blind
>>> hackers.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>> cdh
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