Re: Scanner/Stuff...

  • From: "black ares" <matematicianu2003@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 08:28:06 +0300

I used also not only to ask for the electronic book for free, but buy a paper printed copy if they offer me the electronic book also. This more fair for the publisher, he sell the book and I get what I need.

I work in this maner even with publisher here in Romania.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Trouble" <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Scanner/Stuff...


i liked that service also, and do have a big problem with bookshare. The only books you can get without problems are from o"Riley and others that have done it the same way. When you programming and the books are just scanned copies. Those mistakes can run you into many circles if your just starting in a field that is new to you. As far as there restriction, get real, you can get the same book from the library and do the same for less. When I was still taking classes. I was working with different publisher to get books from them, and not no third rate don't care about quality. Now a lot of text books are given out and all you need is that certifiable paper from a doc. All the publishers have these books in digital format, and all they need is to see there is a outlet for them to be used without theft.

At 10:38 AM 5/12/2008, you wrote:
I have never read a book from bookshare.org because I think that it costs money, while very many good books can be found for free. But, before bookshare started to give O'Reilly books, O'Reilly had a free service for the blind, and I received books from them.

They created an FTP account where I could download the books I wanted, and before creating me that FPT account, I needed to send them a scanned paper that proves that I am a blind.
They accepted my paper, even if I live in Romania, Europe, not USA.
They told me that it is not a problem that I live in Romania, because they also had some romanian employees, and I think they use to accept those papers no matter the country.

Octavian

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hofstader" <chris.hofstader@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:36 PM
Subject: Scanner/Stuff...


Hi Guys,

My parents are in town so I'm fairly distracted from vocational and other
programming related tasks. I did, however, manage to find a scanner with a
document feeder (they used to call these sheet feeders, were consumers
stupid enough to think they had something to do with bedding or is using the
more sophisticated term a way to hit me up for an additional $25 or so by
making me think it's a device far more interesting than something that
simply scans sheets of paper - which, in fact, is what I want it to do).

I bought a new Canon from the low end of their "professional" line which
wasn't terribly expensive and only slightly slower than the one that died on us last week. It is expected to arrive by UPS mule by Thursday so Sue can
start the Drupal scanning project on Friday while I'm having a tattoo put
onto my left forearm. Assuming we don't get bogged down in a lot of paper
jams and other scanning hell, we should have the book done by sometime on
Saturday.

This brings me to a minor conundrum - currently Bookshare.org is my most
profitable client (the amount I earn from my different projects varies on a
monthly basis depending upon how much attention I can devote to a gig and
the project's level of urgency).  I want, therefore, to promote BSO
subscriptions to help defray the cost of the work they pay me to perform and
to help keep the non-profit running smoothly as possible.

At the same time, I don't want to exclude our friends outside the US from
having access to this and other books on programming and technology that we
process.  Also, any web site that posts the book without the protections
afforded by BSO, NLS and the others runs into a possible copyright problem
with the publisher as, although we claim it is intended for blind people
only, we have no way of protecting the content to ensure that proof of a
print disability has been proffered before we share the book.

I'm open to all sorts of ideas, please make suggestions.

Yesterday, I spent an additional $250 on a birthday gift for my twin niece and nephew. I got them the Lego robotics starter kit which includes a ton
of really neat features (you can read about it at lego.com), there are at
least a half dozen books on Amazon describing projects one can make with the set, loads of add on parts, the ability to write code on a PC and download it to your bot and so many other very cool features that I could write for
hours.

The kids were first introduced to these Legos as part of their charter
school program that brought them to MIT for two hours per week, one hour on
robotics using the kit I got for them and the other on crypt-analysis and
code breaking.  Where were such programs when I was eleven years old?

On a more topic based question, though, if I recall from my own childhood, Lego bricks and other pieces were highly tactile - does anyone know of blind
kids using this kit to make their own robots?  Does anyone know of any
trials with children with vision impairment and such a kit? I'm curious to
learn if it could be fit into a middle school course for budding blind
hackers.

Enjoy,
cdh

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