RE: FruitBasket-MFC
- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 14:31:04 -0800
I know this but it will not link. I know there is a flag I am missing but I
have not been able to find it. I would rather like to keep my code till I
have got it to link. I guess if you can not tell me what flags and
libraries need to be on the command line for hand compiling MFC code then I
will continue to look on google.
Ken
-----Original Message-----
From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jaffar
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:27 PM
To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC
Hi Ken. Could you send me your code for the MFC's minimalist fruitBasket so
I can take a look at it. I'll see how i can adapt it, then include the
appropiate instructions with the finished code. Cheers! Btw, You need not
use WinMain() or Main() with mfc because the class CMyApp : public CWinApp
declaration will call the Winmain() function. Cheers!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:50 AM
Subject: RE: FruitBasket-MFC
>
>
> I already have one almost written the trouble only is in the linking
> stage it refuses to link because it can't find main. Well there isn't a
main.
> The main is actually called WinMainCRTStartup and its in an MFC dll
> some where. If someone like Jafar knows what switch I have to put on
> the command line I can have a single file FruitBasket rather quick.
>
> Ken
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jaffar
> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:43 AM
> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC
>
> Hi Jamal. Very true. I'll see if i can write out one over this week end.
> Anyway, I find MFC less cumbersome than actually writing for windows
> using native c++. Cheers!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:29 AM
> Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC
>
>
>> Hi Jaffar,
>> That's good to know that hand coding, without wizards and code
>> generators, is also possible with MFC and VS. If you get a chance, I
>> would be keenly interested in examining a single file, minimalist
>> fruit basket program compiled with VC++. Personally, I find that
>> multiple source, header, and resource files tmake the code difficult
>> to
> comprehend.
>>
>> Jamal
>> On Tue,
>> 20 Nov 2007, jaffar wrote:
>>
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:12:54 +0800
>>> From: jaffar <jaffar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC
>>>
>>> Hi Jamal. As far as I understand it, MFC itself is a microsoft
>>> created library-cum-wrapper for Win32 programming. As far As I am
>>> Concerned, I just create MFC applications without the use of the
>>> readily available App Wizards with Visual Studio. I just start from
>>> scratch from and empty project and hand code the app myself which i
>>> find to be more productive. Cheers!
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:45 PM
>>> Subject: RE: FruitBasket-MFC
>>>
>>>
>>> > I'm looking forward to studying your code, Ken. I have no
>>> > experience with the dialog editor myself, and wonder whether it
>>> > would be possible to develop with MFC without it, by using a
>>> > version of CreateDialogIndirect (or equivalent for regular
>>> > application windows), whereby control attributes are specified via
>>> > memory structures at runtime. Are there wrappers to help develop
>>> > in this way?
>>> >
>>> > Jamal
>>> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Ken Perry wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:36:42 -0800
>>> >> From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Subject: RE: FruitBasket-MFC
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Oh yeah same for Jaws and I am betting most screen readers. Like
>>> >> I said I was able to drop the controls but I had to go in and
>>> >> edit their locations because the dialog can not be tabbed through
>>> >> like the Form editor with Jaws.
>>> >> I mean when you read tutorials on MFC they say just select the
>>> >> button and hit enter and it will give you a list of properties or
>>> >> stuff like that.
>>> >> Well In my case the add button and delete button and edit box
>>> >> were all visible but the list box was not on the screen. I
>>> >> maximized the dialog with Alt-space but that didn't seem to help.
>>> >> I finally just went to the resource file and edited it with the
>>> >> source code editor which means you have to sit down and figure
>>> >> out where each control should go. I am not complaining because
>>> >> you can do it and it gives you full control over the dialog .
>>> >> It
>>> >> could be worse as we all know because visual c++ 6 and jaws you
>>> >> couldn't even select the controls and drop them on the dialog.
>>> >> At least now you can drop them and arrange them later.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ken
>>> >>
>>> >> _____
>>> >>
>>> >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
>>> >> jaffar
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:30 PM
>>> >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Ken. Would agree with you there. The resource editor is not
>>> >> really accessible, although with window eyes, one could use the
>>> >> num pad to read some info on the screen. I wish it were more
>>> >> accessible though.
>>> >> Cheers!
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: Ken <mailto:whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Perry
>>> >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:09 PM
>>> >> Subject: FruitBasket-MFC
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> You ask for it you got it. Here it is the one the only
>>> >> FruitBasket in MFC.
>>> >> The hardest part of writing this was using the resource editor.
>>> >> It was like being back in Visual studio 6. Why they didn't just
>>> >> make the current dialog editor work for the old resources I don't
>>> >> know. I doubt they will fix this in 2008 but we can all pray.
>>> >> Jamal have you tried the MFC resource editor and do you think it
>>> >> could be made to be accessible like the forms editor?
>>> >>
>>> >> Anyway even with the problems I was able to make the FruitBasket
>>> >> program in little to no time so here it is. Note most of the
>>> >> guts of the program is in FruitBasketDlg.cpp and FruitBasketDlg.h
>>> >> I am going to try to make a minimalist version of this but the
>>> >> trouble I had with a single source version of this was the
>>> >> command line options. Microsoft has not made it easy to just
>>> >> compile an MFC application. Further more a single cpp file would
>>> >> need all the controls done dynamically rather than in a resource
file.
>>> >> While that would get around the problems I had with the resource
>>> >> editor, I find fighting with the resource files easier than
>>> >> writing all the code to create the controls dynamically. This
>>> >> doesn't mean I won't make a minimalist version of the MFC
>>> >> FruitBasket it just means it is not done yet.
>>> >> I will most likely make it when I re make the win32 version I lost.
>>> >>
>>> >> OK here is the link to the two archives of the MFC version. I
>>> >> made two because some people on this list like .rar and some like
>>> >> .zip.
>>> >> Inthane
>>> >> use
>>> >> which ever you want to on the page it is the same file. The
>>> >> executable is under the release directory.
>>> >>
>>> >> .rar:
>>> >> <http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.rar>
>>> >> http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.rar
>>> >> .zip
>>> >> <http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.zip>
>>> >> http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.zip
>>> >>
>>> >> Ken
>>> >>
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