Hi Ken. Could you send me your code for the MFC's minimalist fruitBasket so I can take a look at it. I'll see how i can adapt it, then include the appropiate instructions with the finished code. Cheers! Btw, You need not use WinMain() or Main() with mfc because the class CMyApp : public CWinApp declaration will call the Winmain() function. Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Perry" <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 4:50 AM Subject: RE: FruitBasket-MFC
I already have one almost written the trouble only is in the linking stage it refuses to link because it can't find main. Well there isn't a main. The main is actually called WinMainCRTStartup and its in an MFC dll somewhere. If someone like Jafar knows what switch I have to put on the commandline I can have a single file FruitBasket rather quick. Ken -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jaffar Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 8:43 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC Hi Jamal. Very true. I'll see if i can write out one over this week end. Anyway, I find MFC less cumbersome than actually writing for windows using native c++. Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:29 AM Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFCHi Jaffar, That's good to know that hand coding, without wizards and code generators, is also possible with MFC and VS. If you get a chance, I would be keenly interested in examining a single file, minimalist fruit basket program compiled with VC++. Personally, I find that multiple source, header, and resource files tmake the code difficult tocomprehend.Jamal On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, jaffar wrote:Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:12:54 +0800 From: jaffar <jaffar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC Hi Jamal. As far as I understand it, MFC itself is a microsoft created library-cum-wrapper for Win32 programming. As far As I am Concerned, I just create MFC applications without the use of the readily available App Wizards with Visual Studio. I just start from scratch from and empty project and hand code the app myself which i find to be more productive. Cheers! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui" <empower@xxxxxxxxx> To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 9:45 PM Subject: RE: FruitBasket-MFC > I'm looking forward to studying your code, Ken. I have no > experience with the dialog editor myself, and wonder whether it > would be possible to develop with MFC without it, by using a > version of CreateDialogIndirect (or equivalent for regular > application windows), whereby control attributes are specified via > memory structures at runtime. Are there wrappers to help develop > in this way? > > Jamal > On Sun, 18 Nov 2007, Ken Perry wrote: > >> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:36:42 -0800 >> From: Ken Perry <whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Reply-To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: RE: FruitBasket-MFC >> >> >> >> Oh yeah same for Jaws and I am betting most screen readers. Like >> I said I was able to drop the controls but I had to go in and edit >> their locations because the dialog can not be tabbed through like >> the Form editor with Jaws. >> I mean when you read tutorials on MFC they say just select the >> button and hit enter and it will give you a list of properties or >> stuff like that. >> Well In my case the add button and delete button and edit box were >> all visible but the list box was not on the screen. I maximized >> the dialog with Alt-space but that didn't seem to help. I finally >> just went to the resource file and edited it with the source code >> editor which means you have to sit down and figure out where each >> control should go. I am not complaining because you can do it and >> it gives you full control over the dialog . >> It >> could be worse as we all know because visual c++ 6 and jaws you >> couldn't even select the controls and drop them on the dialog. At >> least now you can drop them and arrange them later. >> >> Ken >> >> _____ >> >> From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jaffar >> Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2007 10:30 PM >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: Re: FruitBasket-MFC >> >> >> Hi Ken. Would agree with you there. The resource editor is not >> really accessible, although with window eyes, one could use the >> num pad to read some info on the screen. I wish it were more >> accessible though. >> Cheers! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ken <mailto:whistler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Perry >> To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 2:09 PM >> Subject: FruitBasket-MFC >> >> >> >> >> You ask for it you got it. Here it is the one the only >> FruitBasket in MFC. >> The hardest part of writing this was using the resource editor. >> It was like being back in Visual studio 6. Why they didn't just >> make the current dialog editor work for the old resources I don't >> know. I doubt they will fix this in 2008 but we can all pray. >> Jamal have you tried the MFC resource editor and do you think it >> could be made to be accessible like the forms editor? >> >> Anyway even with the problems I was able to make the FruitBasket >> program in little to no time so here it is. Note most of the guts >> of the program is in FruitBasketDlg.cpp and FruitBasketDlg.h I am >> going to try to make a minimalist version of this but the trouble >> I had with a single source version of this was the command line >> options. Microsoft has not made it easy to just compile an MFC >> application. Further more a single cpp file would need all the >> controls done dynamically rather than in a resource file. >> While that would get around the problems I had with the resource >> editor, I find fighting with the resource files easier than >> writing all the code to create the controls dynamically. This >> doesn't mean I won't make a minimalist version of the MFC >> FruitBasket it just means it is not done yet. >> I will most likely make it when I re make the win32 version I lost. >> >> OK here is the link to the two archives of the MFC version. I >> made two because some people on this list like .rar and some like >> .zip. >> Inthane >> use >> which ever you want to on the page it is the same file. The >> executable is under the release directory. >> >> .rar: >> <http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.rar> >> http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.rar >> .zip >> <http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.zip> >> http://www.blinksoft.com/~whistler/FruitBasket-MFC.zip >> >> Ken >> >> > __________ > View the list's information and change your settings at > //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind > __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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