Re: Easy install of Visual Studio 2010 Express Editions, and a call for evaluations

I had no luck with Internet Explorer 7. I eventually had success with Firefox 3.6 after choosing the English language from the ComboBox next to the compiler of interest, then doing mouse clicks around any related text until a Save As dialog finally popped up.


Jamal


On 2/20/2011 10:24 PM, qubit wrote:
Everybody has trouble with that site -- well, anyone with a screen reader.
Now we all know that a client with a screen reader is easy to identify, so
perhaps M$ has decided to block blind users from getting certain products...
Maybe the message is, "if you can find it, it is accessible." *smile*
I'm actually glad I'm not the only one who wasted time battling that site.
Not that I want others to waste their time, it's just that I know there
wasn't something simple I was missing.
Thanks to Jamal for downloading.
So Jamal, what is your secret? *smile*
--le



----- Original Message -----
From: "RicksPlace"<ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx>
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Easy install of Visual Studio 2010 Express Editions, and a call
for evaluations


Hi Guys: What gives with Microsoft these days? I went to the download site
for the Express modules and it looks like carp! It looks like one of those
CMS sites with allot of links that do nothing - or at least seemingly so
with my screen reader. I just end up bouncing around from page to page. I
clicked on the Visual Basic OnClick and had set the language to English but
nothing but the screen dynamically doing things that did not seem to have
anything to do with downloads. Also links that said something like Express/
... What the? Ya, Microsoft has not added any accessibility to their phone
OS and have been making a conserted effort to throw accessibility out the
window if they can. That page reads like a schizophrenic on acid and a pint
or 2. Well, I see the links you posted but really, Microsoft is going
downhill since the Old Man left.
Rick USA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jamal Mazrui"<empower@xxxxxxxxx>
To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "John J. Boyer"<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:00 PM
Subject: Re: Easy install of Visual Studio 2010 Express Editions, and a call
for evaluations


John,
I think installing Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Express Edition will install
the command-line compiler at this location by default:

c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\bin\cl.exe

Jamal

On 2/20/2011 6:44 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
Jamal,

Please refresh my memory. Does Visual C++ Express have command line cl,
nmake and so on? Is there documentation on making a dll?

Thanks,
John

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 02:30:16PM -0500, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
Due to the serious accessibility problems of the web page for
downloading Express Editions of Visual Studio 2010, I have now posted
the installers for Visual Basic, Visual C#, and Visual C++ on my web
site.  The Visual Web product is not included here because it involves
more extensive pre-installation requirements.  These installers retrieve
software directly from the Microsoft web site, so one obtains the same
components either way.

Visual Basic
http://EmpowermentZone.com/vb_web.exe

Visual C#
http://EmpowermentZone.com/vcs_web.exe

Visual C++
http://EmpowermentZone.com/vc_web.exe

These installers assume that version 4 of the .NET Framework is
installed. One way of installing it is via the GotNET utility, available
at
http://EmpowermentZone.com/netsetup.exe

After installing a VS Express Edition, go to the Register dialog off the
Help menu and choose the button to get a registration key online.  After
signing into this Microsoft site, you can get a key from a resulting web
page or email message.  Copy and paste that key into the registration
dialog.

Let me suggest that this is a particularly good time for evaluating how
well different screen readers work with Visual Studio, and reporting
those observations.  The latest JAWS, NVDA, and Window-Eyes versions are
all claiming VS support.  If we find that a screen reader works better
than others in particular ways, the developers of competing screen
readers may be motivated to address their weaknesses so that they can
distinguish themselves as offering the best -- or at least equivalent --
VS support.

Jamal
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