I can download packages from MS's site. I'm not sure what's giving everyone so much trouble. Just remember to redraw your screen to allow for the everchanging javascript events that fire while you go through the download process, assuming your screen reader is using a virtual browsing buffer. And don't use their download manager, download direct through your web browser.
On 2/20/2011 10:24 PM, qubit wrote:
Everybody has trouble with that site -- well, anyone with a screen reader. Now we all know that a client with a screen reader is easy to identify, so perhaps M$ has decided to block blind users from getting certain products... Maybe the message is, "if you can find it, it is accessible." *smile* I'm actually glad I'm not the only one who wasted time battling that site. Not that I want others to waste their time, it's just that I know there wasn't something simple I was missing. Thanks to Jamal for downloading. So Jamal, what is your secret? *smile* --le ----- Original Message ----- From: "RicksPlace"<ofbgmail@xxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 7:38 PM Subject: Re: Easy install of Visual Studio 2010 Express Editions, and a call for evaluations Hi Guys: What gives with Microsoft these days? I went to the download site for the Express modules and it looks like carp! It looks like one of those CMS sites with allot of links that do nothing - or at least seemingly so with my screen reader. I just end up bouncing around from page to page. I clicked on the Visual Basic OnClick and had set the language to English but nothing but the screen dynamically doing things that did not seem to have anything to do with downloads. Also links that said something like Express/ ... What the? Ya, Microsoft has not added any accessibility to their phone OS and have been making a conserted effort to throw accessibility out the window if they can. That page reads like a schizophrenic on acid and a pint or 2. Well, I see the links you posted but really, Microsoft is going downhill since the Old Man left. Rick USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamal Mazrui"<empower@xxxxxxxxx> To:<programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "John J. Boyer"<john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2011 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Easy install of Visual Studio 2010 Express Editions, and a call for evaluationsJohn, I think installing Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Express Edition will install the command-line compiler at this location by default: c:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio 10.0\VC\bin\cl.exe Jamal On 2/20/2011 6:44 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:Jamal, Please refresh my memory. Does Visual C++ Express have command line cl, nmake and so on? Is there documentation on making a dll? Thanks, John On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 02:30:16PM -0500, Jamal Mazrui wrote:Due to the serious accessibility problems of the web page for downloading Express Editions of Visual Studio 2010, I have now posted the installers for Visual Basic, Visual C#, and Visual C++ on my web site. The Visual Web product is not included here because it involves more extensive pre-installation requirements. These installers retrieve software directly from the Microsoft web site, so one obtains the same components either way. Visual Basic http://EmpowermentZone.com/vb_web.exe Visual C# http://EmpowermentZone.com/vcs_web.exe Visual C++ http://EmpowermentZone.com/vc_web.exe These installers assume that version 4 of the .NET Framework is installed. One way of installing it is via the GotNET utility, available at http://EmpowermentZone.com/netsetup.exe After installing a VS Express Edition, go to the Register dialog off the Help menu and choose the button to get a registration key online. After signing into this Microsoft site, you can get a key from a resulting web page or email message. Copy and paste that key into the registration dialog. Let me suggest that this is a particularly good time for evaluating how well different screen readers work with Visual Studio, and reporting those observations. The latest JAWS, NVDA, and Window-Eyes versions are all claiming VS support. If we find that a screen reader works better than others in particular ways, the developers of competing screen readers may be motivated to address their weaknesses so that they can distinguish themselves as offering the best -- or at least equivalent -- VS support. Jamal __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind__________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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