-=PCTechTalk=- Re: line noise issues, previously manually setting restore points/vista

  • From: Gman <gman.pctt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:30:36 -0400

Christy,
    You're now asking about a completely different type of 'noise'.  In this 
case, noise refers to unrelated subjects and other things that can easily 
pull a person 'off task'.  It may not be easy to get at the full definition 
of this, but I'll give it a shot.

    You've already summed up the concept of synchronous & asynchronous as it 
applies to learning (the first is all at once, the second is as the 
individual students are ready).  The first describes the classroom 
experience while the second could be related to online learning (very much 
how all of you folks get to read the latest reply to a problem whenever you 
get around to checking your email).  So far, so good.

    In the case of a learning environment, the term 'noise' refers to 
anything that distracts a person for learning the specific concept they are 
expecting to learn.  For example, you're specifically asking me about noisy 
learning environments right here over the list, but there are lots of 
'other' topics being discussed at the same time (and some of those are 
topics that YOU are asking about   lol).  How much do all of these other 
topics interfere with your ability to stay focused on this particular issue 
of noise?  If you find yourself distracted because you want to know how 
Steve is making out with his new Windows 7 install, you've been hit by 
noise.  If you also have some interest in Don's maverick escapades, there's 
some more 'group noise' getting in the way of your goal.  And then, of 
course, there are your own 'other' questions that are not related to noise. 
It's not necessarily a bad thing to have these distractions (there's a ton 
of learning to be had by following the trials and tribulations of others), 
but it still serves to 'water down' the experience of getting directly to 
the specific answers you seek.

    Now, transfer this simple concept of 'list noise' out onto the internet 
at large.  As the teacher of a topic or concept, the first thing you MUST 
realize is that it's no longer just other conversations that can grab your 
student's attention.  Now, you have to contend with the person's e-mail (ALL 
of it!), MySpace, Pogo, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Celebrity News, Google, online 
shopping, PaintShopPro, MS Word, MapQuest, etc., etc., etc..  NOW you're 
talkin' NOISE!!!


    As the teacher in a synchronous learning environment, you can somewhat 
control the level of noise since it's all coming from the immediate 
environment (other students, an open window, an item brought in by the 
student herself, the fishtank in the corner, etc.).  But good luck trying to 
do that in an asynchronous teaching environment.        ;^)

Peace,
Gman

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"The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "cristy" <poppy0206@xxxxxxx>
To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:58 PM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- line noise issues, previously manually setting 
restore points/vista


> Hey Gman,
>
> Ok, I understand about the "line noise" issues you are discussing with me.
> I have a specific question though on synchronous versus asynchronous 
> issues
> with noise.  Synchronous learning as in everyone involved in the distance
> learning is meeting at the "same time" but can be at different locations.
> Asynchronous learning as in everyone does NOT have to meet at the same 
> time,
> can be diff locations and diff times.  So the issue here is "time and
> noise".  Would this maybe be something to do with delays with the sound
> causing noise issues?  I need to answer a specific question on 
> asynchronous
> noise issues as opposed to just synchronous ones.
>
> thanks,
> Christy 

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