Christy, You're now asking about a completely different type of 'noise'. In this case, noise refers to unrelated subjects and other things that can easily pull a person 'off task'. It may not be easy to get at the full definition of this, but I'll give it a shot. You've already summed up the concept of synchronous & asynchronous as it applies to learning (the first is all at once, the second is as the individual students are ready). The first describes the classroom experience while the second could be related to online learning (very much how all of you folks get to read the latest reply to a problem whenever you get around to checking your email). So far, so good. In the case of a learning environment, the term 'noise' refers to anything that distracts a person for learning the specific concept they are expecting to learn. For example, you're specifically asking me about noisy learning environments right here over the list, but there are lots of 'other' topics being discussed at the same time (and some of those are topics that YOU are asking about lol). How much do all of these other topics interfere with your ability to stay focused on this particular issue of noise? If you find yourself distracted because you want to know how Steve is making out with his new Windows 7 install, you've been hit by noise. If you also have some interest in Don's maverick escapades, there's some more 'group noise' getting in the way of your goal. And then, of course, there are your own 'other' questions that are not related to noise. It's not necessarily a bad thing to have these distractions (there's a ton of learning to be had by following the trials and tribulations of others), but it still serves to 'water down' the experience of getting directly to the specific answers you seek. Now, transfer this simple concept of 'list noise' out onto the internet at large. As the teacher of a topic or concept, the first thing you MUST realize is that it's no longer just other conversations that can grab your student's attention. Now, you have to contend with the person's e-mail (ALL of it!), MySpace, Pogo, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Celebrity News, Google, online shopping, PaintShopPro, MS Word, MapQuest, etc., etc., etc.. NOW you're talkin' NOISE!!! As the teacher in a synchronous learning environment, you can somewhat control the level of noise since it's all coming from the immediate environment (other students, an open window, an item brought in by the student herself, the fishtank in the corner, etc.). But good luck trying to do that in an asynchronous teaching environment. ;^) Peace, Gman http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.php "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask" ----- Original Message ----- From: "cristy" <poppy0206@xxxxxxx> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- line noise issues, previously manually setting restore points/vista > Hey Gman, > > Ok, I understand about the "line noise" issues you are discussing with me. > I have a specific question though on synchronous versus asynchronous > issues > with noise. Synchronous learning as in everyone involved in the distance > learning is meeting at the "same time" but can be at different locations. > Asynchronous learning as in everyone does NOT have to meet at the same > time, > can be diff locations and diff times. So the issue here is "time and > noise". Would this maybe be something to do with delays with the sound > causing noise issues? I need to answer a specific question on > asynchronous > noise issues as opposed to just synchronous ones. > > thanks, > Christy --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To subscribe, unsubscribe or modify your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk OR To subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject. To unsubscribe send email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To join our separate PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------