It sounds to me like your Graphics card is built into the mother board. So you know what make and model the board is? If so you can either go to their site and find the drivers, or may be even the manual to down load, and then it should again tell you what card is built in, and then you or we can help you find the drivers. Both programs that Sir Troth has told you to try, should tell you what motherboard you have in the computer. Hope this helps a little, Trevnal ----- Original Message ----- I'm assuming you do not have the disk that came with the system or motherboard when you purchase it, as that "should" have the correct drivers. If not, you can try going to the manufacturer's website to check for a new driver. The error message your getting is because you have a driver installed for the video, but its not the correct one. I know you already said you can't find the correct driver, and its probably frustrating that you can't just find it on the company's site. If I repeat a step that you've already tried, please forgive me here. I sometimes forget what I've read in previous posts. Try running Windows Update: http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com as sometimes that will bring up a new and update driver. Short of that, you may have to find out which motherboard you have, the exact model, and then go to the motherboard's manufacturer's site, to get a driver, since its onboard. Do you know which motherboard you have? The model number "might" be displayed on the actual motherboard, but that would require opening up the tower to look at the board, and that might be difficult with all the things hooked up in there. Another thing you can do is download one of those diagnostics/info programs that will give you all the details and specs on your system. Some, not all, will give you the model number of the motherboard, and some will go as far as telling you the video driver you need. Some of these apps are listed here: Aida32 http://www.aida32.hu Belarc Advisor http://www.belarc.com There's a few other ones I can't remember off the top of my head. The other "more expensive" approach to this problem would be to buy an independant video card and disable the onboard one... but, that's a last step, and there should be no reason, at this time, to do that. ---Troth ----- Original Message ----- From: jo HI Troth and Hank - every time i try as you suggest, or anything AT ALL, to change the status quo,which is '16 colors, 800x600 [or smaller] ', i am asked to restart. if i don't nothing happens, if i do i inevitably get a warning as soon as the boot gets into windows. it says something to the effect that there is something wrong with the display set-up and puts up the display change window EVERY TIME - 'CATCH 22' I get out of this by stopping bios and disabling 'onboard video' which is all i have and then setting up 'SVGA' when i am asked to. this is the best i can get anything else is rejected. next time i look, 'onboard' has been enabled. i need help in identifying the accelerator i have and finding and INSTALLING the right drivers which i have somehow lost and are not available in 'plug and pray' help jo To unsub or change your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ For more info: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=pctechtalk