-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Mozilla and Netscape
- From: Jenelle Vollmer <jen51us@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2002 09:58:17 -0700 (PDT)
I agree, its getting old!
donna <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Blah Blah Blah, This silly fighting among you 'boys' is getting old. Can you
take this off list please?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Fuselier"
To:
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 8:32 AM
Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Mozilla and Netscape
>
> Well, David, I'm sorry you have taken that position. If you are not
> a smartaleck newbie, why would you think I am referring to you? Perhaps
> since you already consider NS a dead issue and have gone on to bigger
> and better things, you are not aware of the ignorance about NS 4.xx.
> by the MS addicts. I personally do not consider anything later than
> 4.xx to be truly Netscape, and folks like you help to blur the distinction
> between the original NS, which was Mozilla, and this AOL/NS crap.
>
> As for personal history in computers and electronics in general, I
> sincerely doubt whether many on the web have more electronics history
> than I, starting as a shipboard radio operator in WW11, and threading
> my own magnetic cores in the late fifties while teaching electronics.
> All of that is totally irrelevant however, isn't it?.
> BTW, wasn't Compaq the first to use the 8086 in a 16 bit personal
computer?
> As I recall, IBM used the 80286 as their next step from the 8 bit pc.
> regards, Jack F
>
> "David J. Weaver" wrote:
> >
> > Jack,
> >
> > If you are referring to me, step back. I am not a newbie. I cut my
teeth
> > on an IBM 8086. When I got done with that I started toying with
Commodores,
> > Atari's, one system called the Lynx (not Atari, if anyone ever heard of
that
> > one let me know), etc. I cut my teeth on PC-DOS, MS-DOS, Unix, and
> > programming languages such as COBOL, FORTRAN, and PASCAL (none of which
you
> > hear very much anymore unless your really in the industry. I also
custom
> > build PCs and run a home based business fixing these infernal
contraptions,
> > both hardware and software. I'm also only 31. I also beta test for MS.
> > (And no I'm not a big Windows, IE supporter). I prefer Linux (Lindows
> > currently), and Open-Source and freeware alternatives for my personal
use.
> > Business wise I do use MS as it is a compatibility issue with other
people.
> >
> > And I never knocked Netscape. What I will say about Netscape is this.
When
> > it first came out, it was a viable alternative, unfortunately Netscape
> > didn't push the envelope enough times. Every time they did, IE caught
up.
> > And now Netscape is being put out by AOL. Netscape has changed into
> > bloatware, AOL-esque style no less. The day Netscape sees fit to go
back to
> > their original vision of a better, leaner browser than IE I will gladly
give
> > them a chance. However, I don't see that as happening, since Mozilla is
now
> > out (and Netscape is based on Mozilla, not the other way around). The
> > Mozilla project is being funded by AOL also (something that concerns me
> > quite a lot (can we say Time-Warner's version of Palladium?)).
> >
> > And people are allowed to their opinions, including the opinion to knock
> > whatever program they want. They are also entitled to change their
> > opinions. I like Opera a lot better than IE or Netscape till Mozilla
> > release its official 1.0 version. Now IE joins Netscape, sitting on a
> > little corner of my hard drive, for website testing and helping answer
tech
> > questions about these two programs. I offered my opinions and
observations
> > as just that, not facts.
> >
> > Sorry for the rant. But between this list and other tech lists that I
am
> > on, it feels as if the free tech help world is going to h***.
> >
> > David Weaver
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:pctechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Fuselier
> > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 7:54 AM
> > To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Mozilla and Netscape
> >
> > For one thing, I have gotten pretty fed up with smartaleck knowitall
> > newbies knocking Netscape 4.xx. It still works better and faster and
> > is more intuitively user friendly than anything else I ever tried.
> > Is this a free country for browser choice or not? Jack F
> >
> > "David J. Weaver" wrote:
> > >
> > > Mozilla is the engine that Netscape uses. It is also the basis for
> > KMeleon,
> > > and some other open-source browsers.
> > >
> > > Personally I would like to see Mozilla as the new standard rather than
IE.
> > > Mozilla is cross-OS compatible, it isn't owned by any one person, and
they
> > > take new ideas seriously. It's free, easy to use and add-ons are
readily
> > > available. It's also quick.
> > >
> > > Let's hear anyone (including Bill) say that about IE.
> > >
> > > David Weaver
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