A new SATA data cable fixed the problem. I opened the computer to reseat cables and found a broken connector housing on the hard drive end. Six bucks. Cheap fix. Don Gman wrote: > Below > > Peace, > Gman > > http://www.thevenusproject.com/index.php > > "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask" > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don" <dsw32952@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:12 PM > Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Curiosity may kill the reckless maverick > > > >> So far the problem has happened only when booting from a power off >> state. And, IIRC, only when I leave it alone to boot to the default OS >> (Vista). >> >> The idea of it being a power or data cable would have occurred to me if >> it did not appear to be an intermittent occurrence and if it did not fix >> itself after a couple of three finger salutes. >> > > > Intermittent NEVER excludes the possibility of a hardware issue, even a cord > or cable. All it takes is a nearly broken lead or a little corrosion on a > single contact to bring down a system, even intermittently. Pull each end > of the data cables and reseat them to fix the corrosion issue. Replace them > to fix a broken wire. If you're not in a position to replace, even as a > test, at least reseat them. > > > >> If we assume it is indeed a cable or its connection, I would assume the >> change in setup is because the drive is not seen and setup automatically >> changes it settings to the other drive. >> > > > Correct. > > > >> I will try to pay more attention to this over the next few days and note >> the circumstances on each boot where it occurs. Perhaps we will get >> some more clues. In July or August I will be ordering a new power >> supply and video card for the HP (and a new video card for the old Dell >> and some additional memory for our laptops). That will eliminate the >> power cord as a possibility. I may go ahead and order some new data >> cables as they appear to be reasonably cheap (as low as $1.99 at >> Newegg). Until then I will take notes and live with the problem. >> > > > Living with the problem would be rather reckless! lol > > > >> Another option will be to take the 160 out of the HP and swap it with >> the 250GB in the Dell. >> >> HP has demonstrated to me that they are not happy with customers that >> want to make their computers work in anyway other than the way HP wants >> them to work. Without intending to sound paranoid, is there anything >> in the CMOS or BIOS that HP could muck with that would cause or >> contribute to problems like this? >> > > > They can tie a BIOS to a specific mobo and they can use proprietary parts to > keep out compeditor's hardware, but they can't control partitioning, > multi-booting, etc.. If you are running their version of the operating > system, they can also try to limit many software options, but I don't see > any way how that would have this effect. > > > >> Don >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything > below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. > > To subscribe, unsubscribe or modify your email settings: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk > OR > To subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to > pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject. To > unsubscribe send email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" > in the Subject. > > To access our Archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ > //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ > > To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: > pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To join our separate PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: > pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- Please remember to trim your replies (including this sentence and everything below it) and adjust the subject line as necessary. To subscribe, unsubscribe or modify your email settings: //www.freelists.org/webpage/pctechtalk OR To subscribe to the mailing list, send an email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "subscribe" in the Subject. To unsubscribe send email to pctechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject. To access our Archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PCTechTalk/messages/ //www.freelists.org/archives/pctechtalk/ To contact only the PCTT Mod Squad, write to: pctechtalk-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To join our separate PCTableTalk off-topic group, send a blank email to: pctabletalk+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------