-=PCTechTalk=- Re: Curiosity may kill the reckless maverick

  • From: dsw32952 <dsw32952@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 12:32:17 -0400

A new SATA data cable fixed the problem.  I opened the computer to 
reseat cables and found a broken connector housing on the hard drive 
end.  Six bucks.  Cheap fix.

Don

Gman wrote:
> Below
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> Peace,
> Gman
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> "The only dumb questions are the ones we fail to ask"
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don" <dsw32952@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pctechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2009 12:12 PM
> Subject: -=PCTechTalk=- Re: Curiosity may kill the reckless maverick
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>
>   
>> So far the problem has happened only when booting from a power off
>> state.  And, IIRC, only when I leave it alone to boot to the default OS
>> (Vista).
>>
>> The idea of it being a power or data cable would have occurred to me if
>> it did not appear to be an intermittent occurrence and if it did not fix
>> itself after a couple of three finger salutes.
>>     
>
>
> Intermittent NEVER excludes the possibility of a hardware issue, even a cord 
> or cable.  All it takes is a nearly broken lead or a little corrosion on a 
> single contact to bring down a system, even intermittently.  Pull each end 
> of the data cables and reseat them to fix the corrosion issue.  Replace them 
> to fix a broken wire.  If you're not in a position to replace, even as a 
> test, at least reseat them.
>
>
>   
>> If we assume it is indeed a cable or its connection, I would assume the
>> change in setup is because the drive is not seen and setup automatically
>> changes it settings to the other drive.
>>     
>
>
> Correct.
>
>
>   
>> I will try to pay more attention to this over the next few days and note
>> the circumstances on each boot where it occurs.  Perhaps we will get
>> some more clues.  In July or August I will be ordering a new power
>> supply and video card for the HP (and a new video card for the old Dell
>> and some additional memory for our laptops).  That will eliminate the
>> power cord as a possibility.  I may go ahead and order some new data
>> cables as they appear to be reasonably cheap (as low as $1.99 at
>> Newegg).   Until then I will take notes and live with the problem.
>>     
>
>
> Living with the problem would be rather reckless!       lol
>
>
>   
>> Another option will be to take the 160 out of the HP and swap it with
>> the 250GB in the Dell.
>>
>> HP has demonstrated to me that they are not happy with customers that
>> want to make their computers work in anyway other than the way HP wants
>> them to work.   Without intending to sound paranoid, is there anything
>> in the CMOS or BIOS that HP could muck with that would cause or
>> contribute to problems like this?
>>     
>
>
> They can tie a BIOS to a specific mobo and they can use proprietary parts to 
> keep out compeditor's hardware, but they can't control partitioning, 
> multi-booting, etc..  If you are running their version of the operating 
> system, they can also try to limit many software options, but I don't see 
> any way how that would have this effect.
>
>
>   
>> Don 
>>     
>
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