[patriots] Re: Internet & e-mail security

  • From: Colin <colin.gardom@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:01:35 +0100

I'm going to have to waste more time and re-view the video aren't I :-( .
If it bypasses the ISP, it bypasses broadband, surely. And if that's the case we're back to good old dialup speeds.



On 10/09/14 12:25, Mike Green wrote:
But you cannot bypass your ISP unless you have a physical connection to the network you want to access. All your internet traffic must, therefore, go via your ISP, there is no other way.

Mike.

On 10/09/14 12:00, Chris Pead wrote:

Hello Mike,

As I understand it, it bypassed the ISP, so they can’t see what you are communicating and as I say they would have remove the entire telephone network to stop it! - Chris

*From:*patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Mike Green
*Sent:* 10 September 2014 11:50
*To:* patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [patriots] Re: Internet & e-mail security

Hi Chris,

This is the bit I don't understand. How can it bypass the carriers? I connect to the internet via my local telephone exchange, owned and controlled by BT, as most people do. BT also happens to be my Internet Service Provider ISP) or carrier. They could shut me down any time they felt like it no matter who my ISP was. How do we get around that?

Mike.

On 10/09/14 11:39, Chris Pead wrote:

    Hello Colin,

    From what I heard of the video, payment is in kind i.e. use of
    part of the disc on one’s computer as all info is backed up
    across individual computers and payment is also in making some
    info available that can be shared.

    It bypasses the carriers, so in order to destroy it they will
    have to remove telephone network. Chris

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    [mailto:patriots-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Colin
    *Sent:* 10 September 2014 10:54
    *To:* patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:patriots@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
    *Subject:* [patriots] Re: Internet & e-mail security

    This does look good, some points however.

    What is the cost in the future, will it increase - the poor may
    be left in the dark.
    What will the speed be like?
    And do you not think that when loads of us use it, the government
    will immediately crack down on it and inform all carriers to
    block it's use.

    Just points to ponder before we get too exited.

    Colin.





    On 10/09/14 08:50, Jack Lewis wrote:

        Hi All,
        It was me who started the thread about Internet security with
        the idea of using TOR. Several people responded pointing out
        that whilst we use servers security is still non-existent!

        I have just watched this from Chris Pead and this seems to
        have cracked the problem in that it doesn't use servers to
        send data. Although it is not up and running as such it is
        attracting a huge amount of interest from people concerned
        about keeping their data safe. There are two videos one which
        is the two Scottish developers are interviewed by Max Keiser
        and the other is an animation that explain in simple terms
        how the system will work.

        I thoroughly recommend watching it and suggest watching the
        animation one first and then watch the interview.

        I would appreciate feedback from all the computer geeks back
        to the list rather than me personally.

        I think this will also be of special interest to the ECG!


        Jack



        On 09/09/2014 19:49, Chris Pead wrote:

            MaidSafe is a game changer. To see why, watch this
            excellent 12 minute overview of the system. Without
            servers, no one can shut down or intercept any one.

            http://eurofolkradio.com/2014/09/09/maidsafe-meet-max-keiser/

            Kind regards,

            Chris

            
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