Yes, and most CT proxies are Linux based squid, and firewall is incredibly similar to iptables. Still, it doesn't have to make sense, it just is the way it is... They actually rejected my idea to run TORA, because it was not 'supported'. Guillermo Alan Bort DBA / DBA Main Team EDS, an HP company From: Jared Still [mailto:jkstill@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 3:14 PM To: Bort, Guillermo Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: making graphical reports from oracle metrics On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Bort, Guillermo <guillermo.bort@xxxxxxx> wrote: Apparently Open Source does not go well with the company. Unless all servers are windows out-of-the-box installs, it would be difficult to operate a data center without open source. Most *nix servers have perl installed, and in fact, many can't run properly without it. Web servers? Probably apache. With PHP. It's all quite ridiculous. Jared