RE: autoextend

I have not tested recent behavior, but there have been releases where it was
possible to get autoextend to make the OS file bigger than Oracle could
address. Then you get a catch-22 that there is free space listed in the
dictionary in that file, so even if you add a new file, Oracle will continue
trying to use the free space that it cannot address. If I recall correctly
the error was not detected until a write into an unaddressable block was
actually attempted. That is, extents from free space containing blocks that
could not actually be written to were allocated to tables.

I'm not sure whether this is possible any more with dictionary managed
tablespaces or at all with locally managed tablespaces.

There may be other reasons, depending on your facilities, for limiting the
maximum size of a single file. For example, if you have removable disk packs
for backup you may elect to keep files small enough to fit on a single pack.
That is just one example. At any rate, you can still add a file to the
tablespace if the current last file approaches any predetermined maximum
size according to what fits your facilities. I do recommend having at most
one file in autoextend mode per tablespace at a time, usually the last file
added.

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of genegurevich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:13 AM
To: Dennis Williams; oracle-l
Subject: Re: autoextend

Dennis,

Regarding your point #2 (MAXSIZE). We are debating setting it to unlimited.
The argument for not setting it to unlimited
is that we currently have the MAXSIZE set to about 3 times the current size
of the file. And we only need to expand this
file once in the last several years. And I think there is a general sence
of not giving Oracle too much access.

I am however leaning towards setting it to unlimited precisely to avoid
that "gotcha". This is a very high profile
application and we can't afford to have it running out of space. Plus we
will have OEM monitoring set up to notify
us when the tablespace is close to being filled and therefore we should
know when it is going to be expanded.
with the monitoring turned on, I can't see a scenario when unlimited
maxsize will cause problems. Is there anything
that I 'm missing here?

thank you

Gene Gurevich
Oracle Engineering
224-405-4079


                                                                           
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Gene,

Nope, it will only extend when it needs. Look at RESIZE to immediately
change the size.

Also be sure to mention your platform and Oracle version.

But more importantly, consider two issues:
1. How will the monitoring be done at the server level? For example if that
is the responsibility of your system administrators, then you need to talk
to them first.
2. Be cautious with the MAXSIZE limit. This can become a hidden "gotcha".
You think since autoextend is turned on your users won't run out of space.
Then months from now you get a call in the middle of the night and after
digging around you discover the MAXSIZE was hit.

Dennis Williams


On 9/21/06, genegurevich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <
genegurevich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  Hi everybody:

  I am looking into turning autoextend on on a few of my prod tablespaces
  and
  I want to make sure that
  i  understand it all correctly. I am issuing the command

  alter database datafile FILENAME autoextend on increment XXXM maxsize
  XXXM;

  This will force Oracle to increase the size of the FILENAME by XXXM
  (assuming that
  this space is available in the filesystem) whenever the tablespace runs
  out
  of space.
  It will not however affect the way the space is allocated for the object
  within my
  tablespace. Am I correct here?

  thank you

  Gene Gurevich



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