On 05/01/2005 05:47:35 PM, Tim Gorman wrote: > As anyone anywhere in IT can attest, "updates" from support don't > necessarily imply reliability. In contrast, software that is no longer > being updated can often be considered fully debugged. As many of us can attest, Oracle RDBMS can be considered reliable only=20 after the "terminal release" has been announced.=20 >=20 > I don't know anything about a product named "Karma", but perhaps it's now > stable enough to rely upon? Karma is free and very good product for monitoring databases, written by th= e now=20 long gone and forgotten member of this list, Sean Hull. I haven't seen any = posts=20 by Sean Hull since before my last pet T-Rex died. >=20 > It "does more or less what [you] want". Matching requirements is the mos= t > important criteria, no? Provided the set of requirements is defined. Many companies just invite the= sales=20 force of different companies and tell them something like "impress me". Tha= t is what the term "luser" is all about. > Of course, if it's headed for the trash heap (or the company is about to = be > purchased by CA -- same thing), then maybe darker things might be afoot..= . Now, now, now. I'd say you don't like Unicenter and TNG? The brochures they= have=20 are sooo pretty and CA has marvelous T-shirts. --=20 Mladen Gogala Oracle DBA -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l