Re: Oracle ventures into the O/S market.....?
- From: Mladen Gogala <gogala@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 09:28:58 -0400
Niall, Exchange got SQL Server engine, unfortunately that did see the light
of the day. Performance and stability will be added to the Exchange in the
year 2525. OO filesystem is a classic concept which is known from VMS
times as NLA0:, the device you can write any object to, without ever running
out of space. Unix/Linux has similar concept with /dev/null, the ideal space
for backups.
Some of the most bloated and horrendous pieces of software have come into
existence because vendors had a "vision". That vision must have been stimulated
by LSD, PCP or some other POSIX compliant hallucinogenic substance. I cannot
explain MS Exchange, CORBA, SOAP, EJB and some other pieces of software by
anything
else except by programming under influence. Most of the "concept" software that
is
supposed to be "the wave of the future" and is inefficient, complex, buggy,
hard to
follow, bloated and huge is in some way connected to Java. Those who wrote that
junk
have definitely been under influence when they've envisioned frankensoftware
like
that. That should be illegal. If that's the wave of the future, then let's drop
the
big one now and end it all.
On 04/18/2006 05:28:54 AM, Niall Litchfield wrote:
> They've talked for a while about a transactional filesystem replacement for
> NTFS, this keeps going back. Prior to that of course there was the object
> oriented filesystem they threw a hell of a lot of R&D at in the late
> nineties, that didn't see the light of day either. Oh and exchange server
> was going to get a sqlserver engine at one point as well. I don't believe
> any of these have seen the light of day.
>
> cheers
>
>
> On 4/17/06, Goulet, Dick <DGoulet@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Now I'll admit that it is a touch off the Oracle topic, but didn't good
> > old Microsoft say something about integrating Sql*Server & Windows into what
> > we now call Windows 2003 Server? Guess that died on the vine as well.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Closson
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2006 4:10 PM
> > *To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > *Subject:* RE: Oracle ventures into the O/S market.....?
> >
> >
> >
> > This list does not make Oracle an OS. Try implementing any of that
> > stuff without an OS underneath and the point will be crystal clear..
> >
> > ------------------------------
> > *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> > oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Zito
> > *Sent:* Monday, April 17, 2006 12:19 PM
> > *To:* ryan_gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > *Subject:* RE: Oracle ventures into the O/S market.....?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a talk I give at OUGs around the country about database automation
> > that makes a few general points on this subject:
> >
> > - Oracle's database is getting closer to an OS all the time. We can look
> > at some of the features that Oracle has internally like:
> > --- Cluster framework (CRS)
> > --- IP and network management (VIPs - yes, part of the CRS, I know)
> > --- Built-in memory management (automatic SGA, etc. tuning)
> > --- Built-in storage/volume management (ASM)
> > --- Filesystem structures (tablespaces, OCFS, etc.)
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Niall Litchfield
> Oracle DBA
> http://www.orawin.info
>
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