Re: Oracle on VMS?
- From: Paul Baumgartel <paul.baumgartel@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "Ellis R. Miller" <outlawdba@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2005 20:24:01 -0400
Ellis, I agree wholeheartedly. VMS is a great OS but it's not the way to go. What's troubling me now is how much Linux costs! Red Hat is quoting me $2100 a year per server, with support. We pay a whole lot less for Windows, without support, but with the availability of per-incident support at $245 a pop. As much I want to go to Linux, I'm going to have a hard time selling the senior exec. management that they should shell out $17k a year for the OS on 8 servers when Windows costs about a fifth as much. Sigh. PB On Apr 3, 2005 5:59 PM, Ellis R. Miller <outlawdba@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Paul, > > Experienced with Oracle on VMS: VMS is a great OS, Oracle talent with > experience on VMS is less than zero and support via Metalink is > non-existent. > > In short, a great OS (Beta was better than VHS, too) but not practical. > > There are a number of arguments regarding the importance of > integration/consolidation to single platform, etc. but a few crude yet key > points: > > (1) Do a search on Dice.com for VMS talent. Add Oracle + VMS. Now, do same > search for Linux or Linux + Oracle. > > (2) Oracle is running all of their internal applications on Linux almost > entirely. In fact, long term Linux has more momentum than Solaris or HP-UX, > both of which are well-established Oracle-friendly Operating Systems with an > abundance of talent. > > (3) OS/2 was a great operating system and look where it got IBM;) > > (4) Aside from the economics of integration, in general, consider the > benefits of running Oracle on Linux on Dell hardware, etc. One of the real > selling points of Linux is the Total Cost of Ownership with a particular > emphasis on cheap, scalable, supportable hardware. > > In the end, one of the strongest arguments TRULY is Oracle's support via > Metalink and the associated knowledge base including this list. > > VMS has great clustering, etc. and, in general, I was very impressed by > it...too bad Beta never caught on and now with DVDs who cares;) > > Ellis > > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Paul Baumgartel > Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 4:47 PM > To: Oracle-L (E-mail) > Subject: Oracle on VMS? > > I'm soliciting backup for a recommendation NOT to migrate our > Oracle10g databases to a VMS cluster that our parent company is > installing in a new data center. I'm thoroughly convinced that it's > not the way to go (I'm planning to use RAC on Linux), but the more > ammunition I have, the better. Do we have any VMS users who can > relate their experiences regarding release availability, technical > resources at Oracle, etc.? On the flip side, do we have anyone on the > list who has chosen VMS for a new Oracle deployment? > > Thanks, > -- > Paul Baumgartel > paul.baumgartel@xxxxxxxxx > -- > http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > -- Paul Baumgartel paul.baumgartel@xxxxxxxxx -- http://www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l