Re: Backing up standby db: has stopping recovery prior to backup restriction been removed?

  • From: Fuad Arshad <fuadar@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: fmhabash@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 12:20:21 -0700 (PDT)

this doesnt sound right and the picture depicted in the following paper
http://www.oracle.com/technology/deploy/availability/pdf/RMAN_DataGuard_10g_wp.pdf

Fig .1 also  contradicts what the support rep is saying .
i have done restores and recoveries from a standby database with apply running 
and have no issues.



----- Original Message ----
From: fmhabash <fmhabash@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Fuad Arshad <fuadar@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Oracle-L Freelists <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 9:04:25 AM
Subject: Re: Backing up standby db: has stopping recovery prior to backup 
restriction been removed?

The information is contradictory as I have seen it in multiple places. I raised 
a tar with Oracle and they are saying recovery must be stopped with 11.2 being 
the only exception. These are my questions and Oracle's response to them. I'm 
still debating these answers to clear up this contradiction.


Question
========
- There is NO need to cancel recovery (managed or manual) before performing rman
based backup while db is MOUNTED.

Answer
======
The database CANNOT be in managed recovery mode  if the database is less the 
11.2.0.1 release.

Question
========
- An rman based backup is valid if the standby db was opened in 'read only'
mode before backup withOUT stopping recovery (managed or manual).

Answer
======
The database cannot be in 'read only' and manage recovery in a release less 
than 
11.2.0.1

Question
========
- Performing user managed backup e.g. cp will ALWAYS require either a shutdown 
or
cancel recovery first.

Answer
======
yes.


Question
========
- In you initial answers, why did you exclude 11.2

Answer
======
Don't understand what the question is.  All releases require that you stop 
managed
recovery except for 11.2
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