At 4:50 PM -0400 10/15/04, Manfredi, Albert E wrote: >I think you missed my real question, Craig. > >I understand how easy it could be, in principle, >for a FTA TV buyer to enter this info. My real >question was why any sane person would do so. Uhhh... to receive more relevant ads when they are "forced" to watch an advertiser supported FTA broadcast? Why would you NOT provide this info so that the ads have more relevance, ESPECIALLY in large markets which actually cover MANY smaller markets? If you subscribe to a newspaper, you receive lot's of targeted ads and inserts that are sold on a zoned delivery basis. Cable is doing the same. And this is not limited only to advertising. You might receive public affairs shows that are relevant to the area where you live, or high school sports from your area, or a localized newscast that is targeted to your area. Why do some of us subscribe to vertical industry trade publications, willingly providing all kinds of demographic info in return for a free magazine like Broadcast Engineering? Why do people read the ads in these publications at a much higher rate than for general interest publications. The answer is simple: Because we DO WANT information about the products we buy and use. What we DON'T want is to be blasted with stuff that is irrelevant. If a local broadcasters can improve the relevance of their ads, this may actually attract viewers... > >Cable and DBS companies have you by the you know >whats. Being a subscription service, they >control how you demod their signal. So they can >easily make a way of identifying the household's >location or demographics mandatory. Perhaps. This could also cause people to move to a less demanding service. But the point is that they are not doing this today, yet they ARE delivering targeted ads, simply by virtue of the fact that their distribution infrastructure supports the sale of zoned and targeted ads. The viewer gave up nothing. >Point being, we should all, by now, have become >acutely sensitized to the realities of giving out >personal info. It's one good way of getting >spammed to death. If I buy a toaster or a >microwave oven, I sure as heck don't expect to >have to tell them my hobbies, my home address, >and my social security number, just to get the >appliance activated. That's the point I was >trying to make. Wrong again. Putting demographic info into a receiver is NOT giving out personal information, UNLESS this information is transmitted back to someone. What I described is simply the personal programming of filters that teach the receiver to select from available resources. As you know all too well, there IS no current back channel to send any user info back to a FTA broadcaster. There is no return channel on an ATSC receiver. So this is no different that any other PRIVATE filtering technique. That being said, the ability to reach individual consumers effectively and efficiently is the holy grail for advertisers. This is one of the major reasons that the web has grown into such a powerful marketing resource. Turns out that consumers will actually come to a site to learn about products that they are interested in...go figure! Regards Craig ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.