Thank you Dale, It is very frustrating because most of the people in the US are not connected to the manufacturing and only see low prices in the retail stores as immediate benefit. Only when market crashes, they laid off and their 401K evaporated they look around with amusement asking what happened? Mike Tsinberg http://keydigital.com -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dale Kelly Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:37 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: TV Prices Fall, Squeezing Most Makers and Sellers I'm with Mike, we can no longer afford such largess with our so called trading partners. -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Tsinberg Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:54 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: TV Prices Fall, Squeezing Most Makers and Sellers I am for open markets but situation has to be symmetrical with trading partners. If they protect their manufacturers through tariffs and government subsidies and we do not the jobs fly away from the US. I do not insist that all IC's be made in US. What I insist is an equal playing field. The conditions for manufacturers in the US have to be the same as for our trading partners. In this situation if we lose manufacturing it's fair. >Similarly, if all industries were forced to use only US parts and US >manufacturing, prices for all products would go up, and the average >person in the >US would become more like the average person is in China and Brazil is today. >Unable to afford most of these products. As I can see in Schengen, Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong average person can afford all these products without any problem. I also saw traffics jams where a lot of cars are BMW's, Mercedes sold for 3x times the price in US because of China tariffs. The high end fashion brand retailers such as Chanel, Louis Vuitton have lines in front of the stores to get in. BTW the prices in these stores are about 2x what is sold in US for the same reason. Mike Tsinberg http://keydigital.com -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:55 PM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: TV Prices Fall, Squeezing Most Makers and Sellers Mike Tsinberg wrote: > Happy Ney Year Craig and everybody on the list! Indeed. Ditto. > Yes we in US continue to innovate but this innovation creates jobs > mostly in Asia for both manufacturing of products and manufacturing of > enabling IC's. But you do this to remain competitive. If you insisted that all the manufacturing of ICs that go in your products, and the products themselves, be done in the US, your prices would be too high and you'd be out of business. Similarly, if all industries were forced to use only US parts and US manufacturing, prices for all products would go up, and the average person in the US would become more like the average person is in China and Brazil is today. Unable to afford most of these products. That's the way it works. Local jobs have to evolve, just as jobs have been evolving ever since we stopped being an agrarian economy. Manufacturing jobs are going the way of farm jobs of centuries past. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.