[opendtv] Re: Seeing Ghosts on a Single Frequency Network
- From: "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 19:23:24 -0600
John Shutt wrote:
> What is the advantage of using two 6 MHz wide channels in a checkerboard
> SFN vs. just using a 12 MHz wide channel and using longer guard intervals,
> slower symbol rates, and more error correction in an SFN?
SFNs have a hard time escaping the fact they are kludges, IMO. Too bad they
were given so much hype. I think too many people ignored the fact that there
was a price to be paid. And they conflated the fact that European countries had
nationwide networks with the SFN concept, coming to the conclusion that it
would be no problem to create nationwide SFNs. But back to your musings.
Not sure why you would "checkerboard" two SFNs on two different frequencies.
You mean, for example, up and down the East Coast? Every other city uses the
same frequency SFN? That still means you're trying to cover a market with the
SFN. And in order to cover something that's not a straight line, I think you
need four frequencies, whether it's marketwide SFNs or MFNs.
Creating longer GIs like you suggest helps. Towers can be spread further apart,
behave more like big sticks. You could either ensure that the towers in a
market are all within the GI interval, or you could spread the towers so far
apart that the signal from towers beyond the GI interval is very attenuated.
The latter is really not much different from deploying big sticks, as far as
ease of reception goes.
But consider this. The big sticks in the major cities up and down the East
Coast already do what you suggest, pretty much. A sequence of two frequencies
repeating, certainly in VHF channels. Instead of trying to cover the area
better with SFNs, in these markets, why not use relatively low power
translators? It should be possible to use the same frequency of, say, 500 watt
or perhaps 1 KW translator in parts of the Wash/Balt area and in the adjacent
Philadelphia market. To me, that would be a lot more robust than having to tune
the SFN interference zones where they hopefully should not matter. And there
should be plenty of frequencies available for such low power transmitters, if
they can be reused in each adjacent market.
Bert
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