Dan; It's highly unlikely that any DVD recorder (as a stand-alone product or even a computer component) will adhere to the broadcast flag, but caveat emptor. Once again - I tire of repeating this - the "broadcast flag" just says "you can't redistribute this content" not you can't record it. And, the broadcast flag is not required to even be adhered to. CGMS-A (in analog captions) does provide for copy once/copy never/copy all. But, that isn't the broadcast flag, and adherence is a matter of agreement by the vendor/maker. C'mon Dan, you're an engineer and not an idiot; why are you retaining memes that are in error? You are beginning to sound like a technophobe. (I've met technical writers that were actually technophobes.) John Willkie _____ De: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] En nombre de dan.grimes@xxxxxxxx Enviado el: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 11:21 AM Para: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Asunto: [opendtv] Quirks on the ATSC STBs I noticed a few quirks about the Digital Stream ATSC STB. The most recent one that got me was that while using it to tune into a sporting event and taping it on my VCR, the auto shutoff engaged about 5 hours later. This left me without the end of the event. I had even turned my box on after the event had started it's broadcast. So now, not only can I not program the channel I need to record on my VCR, I also have a limit to my record time. So on a practical standpoint, the STB is really only for live watching. (This again points me to the need to buy a DVD recorder, which may or may not record due to the Broadcast flag.) Another quirk is the fact that it needs power to pass an RF signal, even though this model has analog pass-through. To get analog pass-through, one uses the remote to switch to analog. So the analog pass-through is obviously not a relay (not that I expected one). Dan