Manfredi, Albert E wrote: >> Or is the PN sequence in the GI somehow not a problem for >> simple receivers? > > My answer to my question is that for simple receivers that depend on the > GI being an interval, introducing noise into the GI will at least > increase the C/N margin. The new PN sequence will look like ISI to > simple receivers, although uncorrelated. If symbols are smeared by > multipath, now you will be adding noise *to* the symbols. > > So either you degrade the performance of simple receivers, for which > COFDM was developed, or you get away from the idea that the most basic > equalizers will work well with COFDM. > > I was looking for some handy equation that relates performance to noise > in the GI. > If you have stretches of COFDM interleaved with stretches of pseudorandom PN sequence, you can proceed as follows. It is desirable to have double-length PN sequences. What you do is calculate the cross-correlation between the known PN sequence and the data in the vicinity of the PN sequence. This gives you, directly, the signature of the multipath. You then keep the largest of the multipath echoes, and use those to calculate what the received signal would be with just the PN sequence as transmitted, with the COFDM part zero. You then subtract that from the received signal. This gets rid of the major part of the noise introduced into the COFDM. All this of course is done using Fourier transforms, not traversal filters. It's quite elegant. If multipath is static or slowly changing, you can average different occurances of the PN seqence and get, in the static case, essentially perfect removal of the PN sequence interference with the COFDM caused by multipath. In the static case, in other words, even with severe multipath, the PN sequence add NO NOISE to the COFDM data, after processing. Oh yes ... pilot carriers are either not needed or of reduced need. Doug McDonald ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.