I started work on HDTV in North American Philips in 1983 and yes we knew we have to use Component interface then to get good picture quality. The most attractive attribute was 16:9. I started to work In Toshiba on DVD in 1993 and we knew from outset we will use MPEG2 with 4:2:2 or 4:2:0 and we will take advantage of 16:9 content. We also knew well that component is a best way to go. DVD sold to both 4:3 and 16:9 sets but picked up popularity with HDTV sets because of 16:9 content and component interface we called at Toshiba Color Stream. It was not true HD but many consumers believed it was. With a good scaler and well compressed picture quality it was pretty close. The picture quality of DVD was considerably better then NTSC because of 4:2:0, component interface, and VBR (Variable Bit Rate) coding on the disk. Mike Tsinberg http://keydigital.com -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Albert Manfredi Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 4:52 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: Analysis: Should Apple Buy Hollywood? Craig Birkmaier wrote: >> Not to stray from the point here, but you don't need as much >> chrominance bandwidth as luminance bandwidth. That's why S-VHS looked >> so good. And yet, it didn't create the HDTV market, nor did DVDs. >> DVDs merely exploited the existence of HDTVs, by introducing, after >> the fact, after HDTVs had been around for some years, component >> analog interfaces. Early DVD players did not have component outputs. > > Not true. The DVD Video format was first introduced by Toshiba in > Japan in November 1996, and in the United States in March 1997. The > first > (non-test) > HDTV broadcasts in the U.S. began in November of 1998. You're being your usual obstinate self. HDTV had been in development since 1991. The ATSC formats had been standardized and published by 1994. The DVD spec, on the other hand, which was for an SD recording medium and was published at the end (December) of 1995, 4.7 GB disc, 480i or 576i (obviously not HD). Like I said, at best, they exploited the standardized HDTV displays, but you will have a darned hard time convincing anyone that HDTV was developed for DVDs, or that people went out and bought HDTV sets primarily to watch DVDs. On the other hand, instead of using yourself as the model for the market, perhaps you can find some real stats to make your point. How many people bought HDTV sets only to watch DVDs, when they had no HD source material? Better yet, how many people bought HDTV sets to watch DVDs only, without ANTICIPATING using them to watch HD material? As always, Craig, just saying something doesn't make it so. Bert ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.