[opendtv] Re: 20051029 Schubin's Saturday Stuff (Mark's Monday Memo
- From: "John Willkie" <JohnWillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 05:16:42 -0000
8-VSB doesn't work well enough until Mark Schubin gets digital service
equivalent to or better than what he gets with today's analog. Might never
happen, but it's something to work for.
Religions are based on putting trust or faith into something that you cannot
prove. I have yet to hear of any published engineering tests with the new
sets, only intriguing demos.
You are relatively new to this list, but the chip/IP cost (to the
manufacturer) for those fantastic fifth generation sets is in the same
neighborhood as the wholesale cost (to the retailer) for a DVB-T receiver.
John Willkie
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Tony Neece
> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:57 AM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20051029 Schubin's Saturday Stuff (Mark's Monday
> Memo
>
> I really am puzzled as to how COFDM became a religion! COFDM is =
> telephone
> technology, after all. ATSC works, and quite well, according to reports =
> from
> those that have 4th or 5th generation receivers. Are DVB-T decoders =
> really
> a ton cheaper to make than ATSC receivers? I have not seen any real
> engineering studies that show DVB-T to have significant advantage over =
> ATSC
> receivers that have the improved equilizers. If anyone knows of one let =
> me
> know. I am most interested. =20
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =
> On
> Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:53 PM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: 20051029 Schubin's Saturday Stuff (Mark's Monday =
> Memo
>
> > - Representative John Dingell called the cost of
> > adapters a "television tax of $20 to $60 per TV set."
> > "Why should ordinary people pay for a government decision
> > that makes their television sets obsolete?":
> <http://au.news.yahoo.com/051026/11/wikp.html>
>
> That's easy.
>
> It wasn't supposed to be this way. The transition started
> in 1998 for this exact reason. We squandered away 7 years
> of transition with a "do nothing" policy.
>
> I'd agree completely that the ATSC receivers of 1998
> weren't any good. But then again, the Dingells of Congress
> could have pushed hard to modify ATSC with COFDM at the
> physical layer, back then, to maybe, perhaps, help avoid
> this last-minute rush.
>
> Now is now, though, and ordinary people are being made to
> pay for govt decisions like they always have throughout
> history. If we believe this serves some greater good, fine.
> If not, I'm not sure what he sees as the alternative. Drag
> the "transition" out forever? Or kill OTA outright? Or
> just stay with NTSC and free up the DTT spectrum with
> improved NTSC receivers? What are the alternatives he sees?
>
> Bert
>
> =20
> =20
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