Of course I think the best thing to do, as mentioned last time this went around OBOL, is get a picture of the toes :) Bob Archer > On Oct 28, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Shawneen Finnegan <shawneenfinnegan@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > > All: > > I would say this is a Least Sandpiper, but this is a very difficult ID that > has stumped the best, particularly in basic plumage. Leasts can stretch up > regularly and look tall and upright which throws people off. Bob Archer > brings up some interesting points, but doesn't mention face pattern and lower > bill base color, which is the first thing I look for. > > Long-toed Stints, particularly juveniles, have a different face pattern that > differs from Least in that the dark crown extends to the base of the bill and > connects with the dark eyeline, such that the white supercilium doesn't reach > the base of the bill. It creates a "J". This is less pronounced in basic > plumage. The supercilium on Least extends to the base of the bill. This bird > shows a faint facial pattern with some duskiness at the base of the bill at > the forward part of the supercilium. > > The other thing is that Long-toeds usually, but not always, have a pale base > to the bill, which this bird does not and vice versa with Leasts. There is > mud at the base of this bird's bill on its right side, but not on the left > which shows the bill to be very black. > > Leg length can be hard to determine because of Least's propensity to crouch. > Unless they stand up and look alert like the bird in question, seeing how > long the upper half of their legs are can be difficult to see. > > The first thing I always do is hit the books and internet search for photos > of both species. > > Monte Taylor has a number of photos of LTST on his website at: > http://www.tsuru-bird.net/a_species/stint_long-toed/ > > Years ago Rich Stallcup thought he had found a Long-toed in Marin County, CA, > which was finally deemed a Least Sandpiper. See video/blog by Keith Hansen > who took lots of video of it below. The record was never submitted as I > believe it was finally deemed to be a Least Sandpiper. But it shows just how > hard these can be. > > http://thebloggerhead.wordpress.com/2009/10/27/interesting-sandpiper-has-birders-talking-learning-considering/ > > Off to work. No more time to contemplate this. > > Shawneen Finnegan > Portland, OR