Like Marion County, our "confidential" status is defined by participation in the bargaining process rather than access to confidential or classified information, so we have not succeeded in making IT staff (who are not management) "confidential". Holly M. Miller Information Systems Manager | City of Wilsonville | phone: 503-570-1514 | fax: 503-682-1015 DISCLOSURE: Messages to and from this E-mail address may be subject to Oregon Public Records Law. -----Original Message----- From: oagitm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oagitm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Frey Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 12:45 PM To: Murray Paolo; oagitm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [oagitm] Re: confidential employees? The term "confidential" employees for the sake of collective bargaining has a specific mean for Marion County. At Marion County just having access to confidential data does not meet the criteria of a confidential employee. IT have two employees(Oracle developers - HR module responsibilities) in the confidential unit that assist with contract negotiations by providing advanced data analysis and scenario development for the negotiation team. There are other criteria for our confidential unit that apply mainly to HR staff and a few others. For our IT staff we have them all sign a confidentiality agreement that covers the improper use or disclosure of information on our systems. With the exception on these two employees, 1 other and management all other employees are in a represented unit. -tom Tom Frey Information Technology Operations Program Manager Marion County 503-584-7782 >>> "Murray Paolo" <paolom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 11/30/2011 2:40:25 PM >>> Are there any organizations (state, county, or city) in the state whose IS employees are considered "confidential" employees for the sake of collective bargaining? I'd be interested in hearing from any of you who have dealt with this issue. Thanks, Murray Paolo Yamhill County ******************* This message has been scanned for virus content by Symantec Anti-Virus, and is believed to be clean. Viruses are often contained in attachments - Email with specific attachment types are automatically deleted. If you need to receive one of these attachments contact Marion County IT for assistance. ******************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted to the Oregon Association of Government I.T. Management List (OAGITM) OAGITM ListServ homepage: //www.freelists.org/list/oagitm To post to the list, send email to: oagitm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe, send email to oagitm-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with "unsubscribe" in the Subject To view list archives, visit: //www.freelists.org/archive/oagitm For general ListServ help, visit: //www.freelists.org/help -----------------------------------------------------------------------------