[ntnm] Re: Emailed papers
- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 09:13:17 +0100
Sorry Isaac but this is now confusing.
The a-technic news reader did work well up until RNIB took over the
service,
That is a fact.
Once RNIB took over the service the a-technic news reader failed to work.
That is also a fact.
What we now need I s a yes, or no, will RNIB make a change,
That will allow the a-technic news reader, to work, just as it worked
Until 1st April.
Alison, please can you get a definite answer on this.
So the issue certainly is relavant because the a-technic news reader,
Made reading the paper easy for those that need the easy way.
Regards, Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Isaac Porat
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:40 AM
To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ntnm] Re: Emailed papers
Hi
I would like to clarify a few things on my side and the opinions in
this email are just my own.
SpeakOn and the a-technic news reader are two separate programs both
started their life in the a-technic charity. SpeakOn was developed and
continued to be developed further by myself in my free time and I am
engaged with RNIB to update it for the new service; they still have to
do some work on their server to facilitate this which they indicated
that they are willing to do.
The a-technic news reader was developed earlier by somebody else, when
the only format available was the TNAUK '.doc'. It worked well and has
not been maintained for the last ten years or so.
The a-technic news reader uses the old TNAUK '.doc' zipped format (it
has no format of its own) and without this format it does not work.
The a-technic charity has reduced its activity its website would be shut
down soon; as long as it was relevant I agreed to host the a-technic
news reader on the SpeakOn website.
With the a-technic newsreader the publication is broken into linked
multiple HTML pages and it was created before TNAUK (and now RNIB)
offered HTML format directly, one can therefore argue that it is not
required any more.
Regarding HTML, there are two issues here, format and structure.
In my view the single page HTML format itself produced by RNIB can do
with some improvements but it is generally fine; anybody with basic
screen reader skills should be able to navigate and read the
publications. Single and multiple page HTML formats have of course their
advantages and disadvantages
The output of those publications that are produced manually like the New
Scientist is very good and easier to navigate. The output of some of
the other magazines, such as the Economist, the national and regional
newspapers produced by the RNIB automatic
system is unstructured and thus difficult to navigate making reading
these publications hard work.
In other words the problems are due to lack of structure which affects
all formats and not the HTML format itself.
Regards
Isaac
On 23/05/2014 23:18, Derek Hornby wrote:
> Hello Alison
> So it's not really true then to say:
> "Our tests to date have been successful"
>
>
> Also Isaac has said on this list:
>
>
> "The a-technic reader works with the old TNAUK zipped '.doc'
> which RNIB does not support anymore.
> The a-technic reader is still currently on the SpeakOn website and I
> shall remove it as it is not relevant to the new service anymore.!"
>
> So RNIB does not suport the newsreader ?
> And Isaac does not feel it's relavant.?
>
> Regards, Derek
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Long, Alison
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 10:44 PM
> To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ntnm] Re: Emailed papers
>
> Hello Derek
> Speaking to Dolphin this week, following tests they have conducted, it
> is possible to access the email service using Guide, but there is more
> development work required to make it more user-friendly. RNIB and
> Dolphin are committed to this development work. As I mentioned in my
> post regarding the development roadmap, our developers are in contact
> with Isaac regarding the newsreader and it is our next priority. As
> soon as I have an update I will share it with the forum.
>
> We are conscious that switching on the email delivery service is not
> going to provide all customers with the content they have previously
> enjoyed, we will continue to work hard on this . I can only apologise
> again.
> Regards
> Alison
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ntnm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Derek Hornby
> Sent: 23 May 2014 22:08
> To: ntnm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [ntnm] Emailed papers
>
> Hello Alison
> You said in news letter:
>
> "Our tests to date have been successful, we just have some final testing
> to do early next week so that we can switch on the full service."
>
> Does this mean those using Guide, will be able to access the emailed
> Papers. Also, will the a-technic newsreader now work ok.
>
> Regards, Derek
>
>
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