Mark I'm going to kill you for saying that. Just kidding ;) I agree that I haven't posted as Droin and should be ashamed. I am slightly confused. It is my fault I haven't posted so I don't want to pass this off on someone else. However..I am frustrated because any guy that Droin shacks up with ends up missing...remember Dellan Kye and now Soman...where is Chris? I thought there were great storylines developing with both of the guys and then they ended...Droin's gonna be moving on to new meat soon :) We've had some new officers join the ship...there must be someone who'd go after a hot doctor who doesn't mind sex on the first date haha! Like my earlier email said (BTW Andy, I replied right away before reading everyone else's because for some reason your email went to my Bulk mail) I am lost as to what the Vanguard should be doing. Should Droin be finding out who's infected? Why didn't the fleet not only have a telepathic conference, but also a medical conference? If she isn't directly attached to the mission she was in a relationship with Soman who has disappeared. Anyway, I'm here for the long run - I've tried to escape before ;) - so don't take my lack of posting as me inching out. I learned my lesson and until the ship blows up I guess I'm here :) Alex Cynan <kuhnahn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Andy, all,... Firstly let me say, Raye ? ? Jayne? What's that about? Some nickname of yours? Anyways.. I as well have felt that the pregnancy posts were out of the scope of the mission. I have also felt that other SIMs posting things like, "I think Xavian is infected" etc was a bit premature and like you have said, am unsure of where the Vanguard fits into the whole picture. To be honest I was waiting for a post from you (Andy) to lay it all down! Though saying this, the post about comparing patterns from the transporters was a great idea - still, premature though.. perhaps. I mean, the mission hasn't got going and there is a soluation already ? I'm ashamed in a away that the posts I have made were depicting my character going on his own path. I didn't really know what else to do though.. And it was good in a way because I made at least one (though brief) connection with another SIMer (I intend to try and follow that up at some point). The last thing I feel let down with is *gulp* Alexa. Sorry Alexa.. it's just that you are posting as Xavian, which is cool and all, but it is like you have forgotton that you have a character on the Vanguard too. I don't mean any offense here.. just, I miss your input as Droin. We could definitely do with some guidence from GF as to what direction we should be going. All in all, if we can at least make some connetions with other ships so that we can joint-post/mission with them after this, then I should think the whole exercise is a success. Definetaly need some more inter-SIM posts. Hope you are all well, Mark. -----Original Message----- From: ncv80221-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ncv80221-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of andywoho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 21 November 2003 15:48 To: ncv80221@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [USS Vanguard] Re: [gf_co] JM Opinions All: The following is an email I plan to send to Martin Burton, who heads up Gamma Fleet. It is in response to opinions he's asked of us concerning the current joint mission. Of course, I am only speaking for myself here, but since in a way I represent the Vanguard at large, I'd like your opinions on whether what I've written is inaccurate, unnecessary, or unnecessarily critical. Thanks for your time. Andy andywoho@xxxxxxxxx andywoho@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Message follows:] Martin, While you've done an admirable job pulling everyone in who was interested in the joint mission, and while I've enjoyed seeing my fellow fleet colleagues "in action," I am at this point nearly hopelessly lost amidst the confusion, lack of communications, conflicted posts and low (or no) response to some of my posts (and that of the players on the Vanguard). I know this was caused by a few reasons, not the least of which seems to be an apparent email loss as posts traveled through the Yahoo! Groups system. Where my confusion originates--and, granted, I may be alone on this--are the number of players who are playing multiple roles on different sims, the clear lack of direction of what I (or the sim-ship) am supposed to be doing, and where all this is headed. I appreciate a mystery and certainly I've conducted missions myself where I leave the players in the dark purposefully for suspense, surprises, etc. (although I'm now giving serious reconsideration to that method), but unless I missed a crucial post, unless I've misunderstood the role that Vanguard was obligated to play, I don't see where this is headed and I am not at all clear on what our goals should be. Furthermore, there have been a vast number of email posts that, quite honestly, should have waited until the joint mission was concluded as they had no direct bearing (unless this, too, is a part of the suspense and shock) on the storyline at hand. I am thinking of all the posts having to do with pregnancies and births and what-have-you. These were storylines that originated on the players' primary ships and should have been carried through on the players' own ships in their own course. To me, they were every bit as distracting as the OoC posts were to some others. Maybe I should have read more carefully, but my frustration with those posts (aside from simply the vast number of them) didn't even mention the joint mission! Please don't be deflated by this email. Again, I've enjoyed the correspondence that we've had, I've admired your ability to handle multiple players and multiple sims, and I like the premise behind this joint mission. Even your email soliciting opinions now as opposed to after the affair demonstrates a very commendable attitude toward the players involved. However, at this point, I'm mired and don't know where to turn. Perhaps a bit of pruning on the different branches off the main storyline trunk would be in order...? As always, please let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Again, I don't mean to sound harsh, overly sensitive or critical, and I apologize if I do. Overall, I've enjoyed the experience, but I think some of the shortcomings I mentioned above are preventing this from becoming a GREAT joint mission. 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