[muglo] Re: ubuntu

  • From: Bill West <billwest@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: muglo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:31:34 -0800

Thanks Paul for reminding me to get my subject line straight. And be 
considerate to all muglo readers.



> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 20:02:53 -0800, Bill West <billwest> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The Microtel HD, screen, audio and 56K dial up modem internet
>> connection --I have here, all work with Lindows.
>

So on Feb 7, 2005, at 10:54 PM, Eric Dunbar adds good thoughts:

> Well, since you've got Lindows I'm not so sure I'd switch from it
> (unless they start gouging you money for support ;-). From what I
> understand Lindows is quite a robust system and the distributer
> manages to keep things rolling along (of course, you do have to pay
> for the privilege).

Both are Debian varieties. Lindows really works right out of the box. 
Is designed to be as Windows/Mac like as they can make it. But must 
then charge membership for everything.

>
> Ubuntu is a slightly different kettle of fish (where did that saying
> come from?). Its philosophy is to be made up of entirely "free"
> software (i.e. GPL or LGPL or some other compatible licence) and only
> allow the odd absolutely necessary bit of non-100% free software in
> (drivers for Nvidia video cards, etc.). I don't entirely agree with
> this since it does mean that you have to do a little work to get
> things like MP3 players to work (not much on i86 (is that what you
> call Microtel?) boxes though).

Correct, Eric, i86. And I have no idea how to install downloaded app 
bundles. Or even how to change an rc file. Lindows does absolutely 
everything for you, as does the Mac Unix Fink Commander. As simple as 
adding apps with Windows or Mac.

>
> It seems like Ubuntu is catching on in the Linux community since it is
> quite easy to use and works (reasonably well given that it's free
> ($$$)) "out of the box". They (Canonical) also plan to release a
> "stable" release every six months.
>
> FYI It's a "Debian" derivative -- Debian is the super project but the
> drawback to it is that its "stable" releases are very infrequent and
> security updates only really come out for the stable releases.
>
> On Mac hardware, there's another popular Linux that goes by the name
> of YellowDogLinux, a Fedora derivative (formerly known as the personal
> version of Red Hat Linux). It's got the advantage that Terrasoft (its
> creator) is expert at supporting PPC.

Yes! Good to mention. I came within an inch of ordering my iBook from 
Terrasoft --for their Yellow Dog.


>
> Anyway, if you have the room or an extra HD, check out Ubuntu. It's a
> free download and IT COMES ON ONE CD! (suggestion: have a high-speed
> connection to the web or at least three or four hours to devote to
> dial-up if you plan to download bug fixes/security patches
> immediately... it's advised since if you don't set up immediately
> you'll have to do a bit of leg work to set up internet access later
> on).

>
> PS If you want any extra software, there's lots of it in the universe
> and multiverse repositories (Synaptic) or you can compile from source.

> One other thought: There's a "live" CD for Ubuntu which allows you to
> "test drive" the OS before you install (free download from
> www.ubuntu.com as well).

Thanks, I'm keeping your tips. I've ordered both the MacPower CD and 
the i86 CD --hoping the "live" CD is included --hoping they are still 
shipping CDs.    :)

.
>
> Now it's really time for bed.
>
> Eric.

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